Cheater Report Discussion
I am not surpised
And people call me paranoic.
GG
Well i have to ask, keeps bugging me, so here it goes :
Are you refering to mzi, or to the accusations Terror makes against Elite'z ?
(Since its 3 min. after Terrors post, i think the later...)
.. lets rumble.
Nuff said. Thanks for sharing this, makes it clear. Don't bother reactions cause you hit the nerve. Either this will grow or stay in self-deception. Sry for being pessimist, but i count on second option.
Wow finally I understand why some players can hear so exceptionally good that it seems freaking unreal! I always thought that they got the volume at such a high level that their eardrum must burst.
.. incredibly pathetic!
F1 bro, if you win with cheats you actually lost. Cause the cheats have won, and not you. I think we spoke about this some months ago. I don't get ppl who feel happy winning with this kind of bullshit. But this can explain some amazing (impossible) grow in skill in the past..
.. against Elite'z ?
Client side thing, nothing to do with Elite'z..
Cu around..
I got bored of reading all that stuff, why you people can't just play without anything, .pk3 custom files, scripts in cfg... Try it, gonna make life easier. I tried one time to download multihack to see how is it working but I didn't even knew how to install it and turn it on, sad i know I am n00b. I never used custom .pk3 files except zzz-models at excessive (not) PLUS what you are so proud about where you couldn't change enemy color to green just by command, even this pack was weird for me, try to keep your e+ and baseq3 folders as clear and clean as it is possible... Did anyone used scripts, cfg, cheats or custom files for Mario or Duck Hunter at NES console? Nope? And still had fun? So why now you want to do it? To be pr0? I will tell you secret but shhhhh! YOU CAN'T BE A FUCKING PRO HERE! Because pr0 means professional, what professional means you gonna ask? Professional means getting paid for work -playing q3 here at e+ mod, so still do you believe you will get sponsor and a lot of money here? Maybe just sponsor for server, even QL is going down cuz shi(oo)t mania is on top now... So calm down, delete your shits from q3 and keep going. Btw. hearing enemy better without your model sound is cheat for me same as WH.
Ps. @ Haters, hate now. But you don't even know how much time I spent to write this MSG by Nokia 3310 without Internet and closed eyes by person who lost hands in car accident xD
wrote:If u are point at those pk3 files, then
it's obviously not just mzi, but whole elite'z responsible for
it...If you dont know what you are talking about, and
jump to conclusions, read better instead of slander a clan who has
absolutly nothing to do with this AT ALL !!
indeed I jumped into conclusions :E I'M SORRY for blaming elite'z for this... but let me exaplain myself...
In
IS* Clan private forums we have topic called "IS * config share" where
we share our private configs with eachother. (i'm sorry IS* members
for making it public, but this has to be done to prevent from using this
crap on e+ ).
Zarzyn has uploaded those pk3 files and added this:
in zip you got gifts from no named master mzi. gl insta pupet msterone is for mute your own sounds
second is to get lowder enemy keel
That's interesting but
? won't it kick me if pure and pb is on ?
no
go to rayden serwer and check
if not kicking, then they have it uploaded at server = cheaters have adventage D+
if
we are at this topic. i know that some servers have empty pbsv.cfg file
what means, you can use some cheats even if pb is enabled welcome to
e+ mod of pros
mzi use that script from around 1 year. when he was in panda klan.
i dont know from who he got it but many ql players got it.i use first script with mute my sound. why. because i try play offensive .
when i am in full run . i can here enemy and know his position.about second i dont use him cause i play with tankjr not keel.
but if need it here you go.if you got more question about this subject pm ore somethink/
thanks for sharing those scripts from mzi zarzyn, that could help us alot
even
though i'm against any kind of hacks, but since as i see now, most of
better players use some advantages i say fuck it, lets use this if it
will help to play better
THIS
LAST COMMENT FROM EQUINOX is pretty important, because this is what is
happening on e+, if "they are using it, then why shouldn't I use them
aswell?"
yo zarzyn i have tried to play today with first script
(for muting my own sound) and it works nice on ERA ftag , but when i
went on beer.freezer, it doesn't work on pure. are you sure the pb will
not kick us if we use it on cw-s ?
my last cw was agains mr in tdm cup on rayden super duper hack killer pb .
i dont know from who mzi got it.
pure kicks only for modificated files *.pk3 - when we compare it with *.pk3 at server.
if
u add some new paks into you quake, and server dont have them uploaded,
then simply server will not let you to load those paks durring your
playing time at this server.pure kick only when client have for
example pak4.pk3 wich one have other/modified files inside than original
one (from server)
... and now the explanation why I accused elite'z of cheating and uploading pk3 files to their server:
quotes taken from PMs between me and skullhead
yo, in case you havent got them, here are those altered sound pk3 files
In IS private we have "share your cfg" topic, where zarzyn posted it...
he claims that he got them from mzi and that most of Era freezetag
players are using them :E makes sense, since they all got more sneaky in
short time :E also those files are uploaded to server, otherwise they
wouldn't work for clients.kroki_wszystkie_boty_wyciszone = file that makes your own sounds muted (jumping and walking)
odglos_keela = file that makes keel sound much louder
they work for clients if server aint pure.
and don't worry, if i want, i can make such stuff on my own.
hmm, im not 100% sure now but i tested it on c4war with pure off and it
didnt work, so i assumed that they have to be uploaded to work... damn
cheaters everywhere
Once
again SORRY ELITE'Z for blaming you for this, I jumped into conclusions
to fast, but I'm very impulsive when I'm finding any evidence of
cheating...
PURE is set to 1.
GOOD JOB
edit:
mzi take your osrc 3 in anus and your ng 1.16 cheating noobs from e+ nooooob
This sound pack doesn't increases hearable distance in my opinion, however disabled own footsteps and jumps sound is clearly cheating. That let you hear better rest of the sound spector becouse human has a non-linear hearing and it prevents masking effect, so seems like you hear better, but it's only psychoacoustic effect.
About the sound volume, increased dynamic of wave files may let you a little advantage if you have onboard sound card, but with external sound card that has hardware amplifier i can make volume up even much more than 9 dB and without any cliping, so with good hardware you got this advantage without cheating anyway.
I would recomend to put Pure On on ERA FTAG server and problem will be solved + will be fixed bug with teleport window due to messed up QL pk3 files.
This sound pack doesn't increases hearable distance in my opinion...
really ? then howcome on dm8, when I'm under rockiet I could hear exactly how many enemies are waiting for me above to jump with jump pad ? and I only tested it on 2 maps with +6db, this is obviously a wallhack-like cheat. period
...and this is just one example...
those 'advantages'' stinks like any other hacks in game, thats clear. my question is - can server administrators do something to set up anticheat protection to kick out 'players' using those 'advantages'?
wrote:This sound pack doesn't increases hearable distance in my opinion...really ? then howcome on dm8, when I'm under rockiet I could hear exactly how many enemies are waiting for me above to jump with jump pad ? and I only tested it on 2 maps with +6db, this is obviously a wallhack-like cheat. period
...and this is just one example...
it has too much black box cases for me, to answer on this quastion, coz it strange how dynamic inreases the distance in q3, i tested it out yesterday night and noticed only higher volume, distance was quite similar to normal, i didn't test it long and not on public with many players, so i may be wrong, but anyway Pure prevents it.
not incrase distance incrase volume from first moment when you are able to hear enemy. you dont hear little steps far far away, but loud steps like when enemy is near to you.
incrasing main volume is not that same as incrasing volume of only one important sound.wav
those 'advantages'' stinks like any other hacks in game, thats clear. my question is - can server administrators do something to set up anticheat protection to kick out 'players' using those 'advantages'?
looks like those files shouldn't work when pb and pure is on... but
wrote:
my last cw was agains mr in tdm cup on rayden super duper hack killer pb .
i dont know from who mzi got it.
I guess only solution would be Official war servers, which would be administrated by trusted people with good pb knowledge (skull )