Cheater Report Discussion

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do ANALlise of every scene
from me
first (0-3): I dont know in what part of round it was, that part can have influence for that what we see in this clip. I assume that he/she was sure about that RL is empty. She/he was start to aiming directly to edge of enter to YA/SG room - normal behaviour for me.
second (4-9): cleary hearable tankjr, easy to predict where. If we are dealing with nervous player, shoots "thru walls" are normal for me. Many times when i was have situation 1v1 or <1 then i became nervous, start walking from left to right or in circle and start aiming + shooting. Opponent is doing that same, we start predicting where will be second1 in time when rail is ready to shoot. Its normal to miss few shots, or few direct to pillar or corner of wall Tongue It rly depends on many things i guess. In that short clip, we can see that he didnt enter there like rambo and do that shot. He/she was hiding behind corner (moving left/right) and when hear enemy, probably predicted where, he/she give a shot.
third (9-13) - nothing special, tankjr was visable for some short time. He/she have just late reaction and fire little to late.
fourth (13-23) - cuz of montage i lost timeline in first time when i watched that xD this one looks strange. First one from that too short clips what i personaly can suspect for WH.
fifth (23-32) - was aiming on that corner, even when iam watching it in small window its clear. TankJR came out from corner for quite long distance, even if he/she wasnt have a good time reaction.
sixth (33-till end) - at move i cannot hear that he went to dungeon, so looks like WH.

Its only mine personal opinion about those short clips. i miss bigger fov and lover timescale in that clips Winking

PS, if it is mzi or any of his friends, or it is fps or any of her friends, then 100% cheat without watching it.

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XV!BENEDYKT wrote:

or it is fps or any of her friends, then 100% cheat without watching it.

I doubt any of your opinion would be taken into consideration because:

JUMPS'FPS! wrote:

BenedyktXVIStatus: Red card.
Reason: using an active cheat (wallhack) Link
chance to appeal after 6 months passes (2.05.2013).
Duration: Permanent

Anyway, I have full demo, and know this player, but I stay out of discussion.. atm.

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JUMPS'FPS! wrote:

Anyway, I have full demo, and know this player, but I stay out of discussion.. atm.

go do JUMPS from bridge cheater.
if some1 shared demo with you, we can be sure that verdict will not be fair, you cheater.

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i follow this, but i see this one more time later without haze in my brain. (look suspect now) Big grin please make it more outstanding..

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agree with bozo show a full demo then can judge some bits looked wh but who knows could be a player with great prediction. sooner u give a name if we know them we can make our own demos and judge Tongue

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possible wallhack, would like to see demo or extended moments around the youtube montage ( keeping in mind HQ did the same and so did you skull Winking ) this is like trying to prove with a screenshot that some1 has autoshoot xd

@edit: the people who hope its a person are not looking objectivly and are just confirming the player is a cheater for there own need. I dont need a name nor I care for a name, I simply want to see the whole situations as we dont know the player made sounds or not and can be explained.

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XV!BENEDYKT wrote:

do analyse of every scene
from me
first (0-3): I dont know in what part of round it was, that part can have influence for that what we see in this clip. I assume that he/she was sure about that RL is empty. She/he was start to aiming directly to edge of enter to YA/SG room - normal behaviour for me.

The Demo is without Demobuffer, so in fact, all models are ahead. Still he/she did a 150msec reaction there.

XV!BENEDYKT wrote:

second (4-9): cleary hearable tankjr, easy to predict where. If we are dealing with nervous player, shoots "thru walls" are normal for me. Many times when i was have situation 1v1 or <1 then i became nervous, start walking from left to right or in circle and start aiming + shooting. Opponent is doing that same, we start predicting where will be second1 in time when rail is ready to shoot. Its normal to miss few shots, or few direct to pillar or corner of wall Tongue It rly depends on many things i guess. In that short clip, we can see that he didnt enter there like rambo and do that shot. He/she was hiding behind corner (moving left/right) and when hear enemy, probably predicted where, he/she give a shot.

again you mistake the Situation. The tankjr was seeable for a moment and after more then a half second he does a straight shot to the Pillar exactly where the Tankjr is behind. It has nothing to do with Spam since he seen the tankjr and shot the Pillar eventhough he would have to shoot one of the corners of it if he wants to use reload time for his advantage.

XV!BENEDYKT wrote:

third (9-13) - nothing special, tankjr was visable for some short time. He/she have just late reaction and fire little to late.

We are talking about a professional E+ player here, the reaction can't be that bad. Anyways the point is that its another fire onto a wall were an enemy is behind.

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fourth (13-23) - cuz of montage i lost timeline in first time when i watched that xD this one looks strange. First one from that too short clips what i personaly can suspect for WH.

I am sorry, but there is no better way to show it. It is maximum Length of the scene. As far as I recall the tankjr did not make ANY noise - so he might have just been to the left either.

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fifth (23-32) - was aiming on that corner, even when iam watching it in small window its clear. TankJR came out from corner for quite long distance, even if he/she wasnt have a good time reaction.

the Distance is short enough to be hearable. The Point is that he watched whole time eventhough the Tankjr waited/faked a different path of walking.

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sixth (33-till end) - at move i cannot hear that he went to dungeon, so looks like WH.

it is possible to hear. However remember demo is NOT buffered, playermodels are ahead of the position the person seen it. So he might be perfectly on through the wall on the first Railshot.

XV!BENEDYKT wrote:

Its only mine personal opinion about those short clips. i miss bigger fov and lover timescale in that clips Winking

PS, if it is mzi or any of his friends, or it is fps or any of her friends, then 100% cheat without watching it.

I tried to give everyone the chance to see unmanipulated material on timescale 1 with fov 100. Demo would give out the Players name so you guys need to wait a bit more.

hurrenson: "This idiot is apparently not familiar with a rail/sniper style."

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eu.jeff wrote:

possible wallhack, would like to see demo or extended moments around the youtube montage ( keeping in mind HQ did the same and so did you skull Winking ) this is like trying to prove with a screenshot that some1 has autoshoot xd

I can do that, MUAHHAHAHHAAH

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Or maybe its just fala and you trolling again...

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just hand out the demo or name, yeah that would be great


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