the new consciousness
First, try to not say something that hurts ppl and will start a flame war pls.
I don't want to engage in a prolonged debate, let me just summarize some points for you: you believe in an entity that condones and approves of slavery, racism, rape, chauvinism, mass murders, wars, child abuse, and intolerance (read the Old Testament if you don't believe me). Having your own set of beliefs automatically means you're the enemy of god and all his faithful.
If you are talking with me, then, that's not the god I'm believing in.
My god has top qualities level no human could reach or even imagine.
Crimes are human doing, not god's, and all crimes get punished a day, no matter what time it takes. Justice exists in this world and the ultimate justice will come on the judgement day, believe it or not .
Anyway, no flame wars pls
It's all in the 'instruction books', as you called them, maybe you should read them more carefully.
Hell, demanding a sacrifice of one's son to prove one's worth is pretty sick. You'll find a myriad more examples.
Can you find one with anal rape :
Can you find one with anal rape :
Pretty sure god condemns homosexuals to death, so, probably.
You make one basic assumption that is utterly, and completely, wrong. I am not talking about what humans did - i am talking about what is written in the holy books. As those are the only real source of info about god, i take for granted what is written there.
Just facts. I won't open my mind to idiocy, sorry.
warnerman, yes ur r right. sometimes i really feel i miss something. every morning when i wake up, I really hope i get it one day. If i get it, than i will understand everything.
I really miss something, believe me!
I MISS PARAGRAPHS IN UR POSTS! Warnerman
Uh-huh. I don't want to sound ignorant, but i won't go into metaphysical aspects of belief because: 1) that's highly personal and is not the object of my attack 2) we'll start doing circles in the space of 2-3 posts and end up at the beginning.
I'm actually fairly lenient when it goes to what people choose to believe - it's their business, and their business alone. What i will vehemently try to bash at every opportunity is the catholic church and Christianity as an institution, as i consider that to be the biggest evil that beset humanity (well, that and Muslims creeping all over the place, but that's another thing entirely).
Thing is, since you say that our perception of god is inherently flawed, and none of the material sources can be believed, you killed the argument, as what was written by the wise (they had to be, the bible has hundreds of pages!) men that started Christianity is what the point of my posts oscillates around.
You, basically, also annihilated Ali's point, but i'll leave it between the two of you to figure that one out.
Well guys,
mowlly: its good enough for everyone of us to do the things that we really think we must, if you are happy enough with your life, then its great and its the signal you are doing all what you must to do. Personally i think you are a guy who cant be quiet when you need to move your ass, and i can bet you work hardly in the way u really belive. So you can be happy with your personal efforrt in your life. I will let you just one tought, from time to time dont you feel the inside voice telling you about somthing is missing? dont know how to tell it in english but you know, i mean no matter what we can do but late or early the voice is there again and that internal feeling about somthing is missing, i am still uncomplete, when i do that or those then i will be complete i will be completle happy, and when u do that or those nothing happens, always is the same, always we need to still searching what is that ... and dont you feel from time to time a special feel of awake? some times you feel like mmm im here, and you look aroound and feel special and different kind of aware that you are there, and you feel the last time you feel the same was some time ago and so much things happens allways between each time, its like you are dreaming and suddenly again that feeliing.. Im here.. what have been doing all this time.. dont know how to express that in egllish but im sure you feel both things, All what i am trying to do with this topic is to let you know about we can make more longer that times when we feel that kind of aware, and the more long we can stay on it the more things show to us the shapes or meaning we normally cant perceive on the normal aware we use to live, work, talk, etc. Nobody here its trying to teach religion or somthing like that, just the real power we can use if we just stop a little and hear that internal feeling. You talked about those are ways to earn money and im understand what you mean but not All are the same, i have never pay to nobody for all this and i assure to you that i have been awaking my aware in a amazing way. Just open your mind, relax and try to think all in a diferent way and dont pay to nobody who ask you to pay just read and meditate all of this and follow your personal intuition aaaand hear that internal voice. If you feel good enoug withyourself now then its the best time to do that because you are strong and calm enough to think with calm if you like more to wait then its good too just remember this the next time you feel that internal voice/tougth telling you: somthing still missing or the other feeling .. im here again, what was i doing .. in that moment remember me and just try to make it the loonger you can.
Alli: The way that humanity think about the last justice or doomsday its as all the things humans did a human perspective of that. when all will be judged depend their acts..
I really belive in the last judgment, but not in that way, i really belive that day will become and how it will look? easy that day will be the last day a person make a judge to another person. And the result will be the first day ppl will leave all in peace. God will not punish anyone.
Panda. All the horrible things you talk about it was made by humans including the interpretation of God, and all that was made it just because All of us Belive in pain, belive in punishment and belive in others are bad. our thinking in this direction is very strong and we brought everything we have just passed and with it brings a great lesson, Which one? this way to be will never works at all. Always bring more of the same. in this moment of you life will you argee with me about life teach you humility? Im sure the work of pain its exactly that, teach us humility to open our mind to see the life in a different ways, some need more pain some need less, but All have been in moment when we said its enough for me, I give up, what do I'm doing wrong? I just want to live in peace..
How can we play quake3 if we are running mario bros? i mean we just get what we have to give. but life and not God bring us pain, so much pain as we need to understand that.
Guys just try to open you mind and follow you intuition, everyone is different and everyone have somthing unique to say , the only i mean THE ONLY thing that dont change for all is that feel of been here aware, the rest is so relative fro everyone, except the feeling of pain.
will be good if you want to participate tomorrow in the mditation hour, you dont have nothing to lose, just think for that hour about the things can really be in a different way and we dont really get pain to live. Dont need to pay, its free!
Love, Peace and Abundance
We has been felling ourself like a drop of water out of the ocean, smalls, weak, etc.
What if we introduce the drop into the ocean?
From that perspective the drop do not feel itself anymore small or weak ... Can u feel what it means?
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