i dont speak about facts, because i dont know any facts.

I speak about the generell behavior, people show up. If u do insults in here, u maybe go down on enemys level, and i dont know if u want to do it.

Hello

I will come shortly with some info that i think you turned around or forgot to include fest about your long post. One thing i wanna point out is that you are not a victim in this issue. Its just an addition to your post and i rather dont see a post like this witch doesnt include all facts of a case.

Fest wrote:
just one week later, seal start to be confused and doing strange things in his leading,just asking girl something and nothing more

Answer: Fest you have never really leaded pGv, the only thing you did was to wear the title as Leader and to make homepage stuff, after several tries to come in contact with you because you was never around, i had to take decisions witch concerned the clan.
I asked Girl as advice because she is adult like me and we could talk serious and crack issues with a good angle.

Fest wrote:
totally i where forget in the memory of Seal

Answer: Fest no one have forgot you at anytime, i guess its your point of view. As you told me earlier you was sad because i used more time with girly now than with you, but that is not like i had forgotten you, not at all.

Fest wrote:
he were recruiting doing somethigns in the clan with out asking me

Answer: If you mean Master then remember you and i agreed on this point and you did even play the tryout.

Fest wrote:
up when i ask him to get Sergio aka Yoda, he start a vote in the forum with out ask me.

Answer: Well, i did that vote without asking you internal in the clan because it was nessesary. There was no point by asking you when you was incompetent by your friend Yoda. Many people know that yoda is known for insulting and bad talking and after insulting people on our server including me, i had to ask people if they will take that with them if he was going to join our clan. A simply vote because i knew it would have big influence on how the clan would work after yoda would have joined.

Fest wrote:
he just kick a old player SOLDIER the brother of YODA cuz soldier were talking bad to SEAL

Answer: Soldier was kicked because of shit talking and it wasnt a reason to defend his brother from when his brother spoke his insults (Not accepted).

Fest wrote:
then SILENCE showed up to seal 2 lines of his own old archives.... SOLDIER CHEATS, in the year 2004

Answer: The funny thing about this is that you told me the same for 5 month ago when you didnt like Soldier and Yoda. Quote from you "I dont like those cheaters" The cheat thing was about Soldier joined a pb server to test a cheat, but for me you dont test a cheat online and why on a pb server, i guess it wasnt planned to be spotted.

Fest wrote:
after this SERGIO aka YODA were kicked from FUC clan

Answer:
Yoda was kicked for FUC for bad behavior, and i heard he have got many chances to improve on that, but he didnt. That had nothing to do about defeding a brother fest!

Fest wrote:
i were very saddy about this things so i tryed to fix all this shit and doing a correct thig

Answer: You didnt fix anything else than messing up with my password on my e+ forum account.

Fest wrote:
i werre very very mad/sad with this leading organitation

Answer: How could you be mad, when you didnt do anything other than the website for pGv, i think you have a wrong picture about how much you really did.

Fest wrote:
fest you suck , fest you all shit, Why that?

Answer: Fest what do you exspect after stealing our clanserver after you left pGv witch you had FTP-password for because you was the one that registered it. But you forgot when you changed the server and turned it to be your property, then one of our members pGv Fear had was currently paying for the server + 2 month forward. You had no money left there and right to take it just because you did signup for the server.

Fest wrote:
i sended seal a lot of emails doing SPAMM asking him SORRY if i do anything

Answer: I dont need you spam mail. When i didnt answer you it should be because i dont want to speak with you after you did bad things.

Fest wrote:
they started to ask all the administrator fro mthe servers to bann me from all the servers

Answer:
Are you paranoid fest, because no one have asked for that and people know that im not that kind of person. Just as info if i really wanted you banned you was that now.

Fest wrote:
also they tryied to make me a badboy in this community

Answer:
On msn just before you left and knocked with the door you told me this, i guess you made yourself the badguy.

b ö Я j á (jƒ) ·$12 •ByS• siger:
ill be that bad guy on quake3 no
b ö Я j á (jƒ) ·$12 •ByS• siger:
now

Fest wrote:
hacking some stuff like MSN,WEBSITE and SERVER

Answer: Fest after you got mad many things have happened. My e+ account got hacked and someone changed my password 20 times until it got closed [ask term for more info], further Kamahls msn got hacked and someone was using his msn to speak through to Girl and me. Further someone tried to hack me and i got a mail from my University that they have traced the ip´s to spain, witch was portscanning me. Someone was portscanning Girl´s pc and the ip was traced to a server provided by EN. Someone was spoofing that ip (faking) to hack from.

Fest wrote:
so i decide to put a picture on the home of progressiveplus.net,
Answer: About this picture, its not called defence but offence, one more time you are not the victim.

Fest wrote:
just banned from the shoutbox and the forum of the excessiveplus community

Answer: I guess it was a good solution after you abused the e+ site to hack accounts.

Fest wrote:
also i heard seal were trying to talk with EASY to bann me from ALL servers of the excessiveplus community

Answer: I didnt talk with easy at all, why so paranoid, and i didnt wanna ban you from other servers than pGv, because none of us want to see you there anymore based on the reasons described further up. The only servers you are banned on is the 2 pGv servers.

Fest wrote:
this its my question, and my last word, so ill give you the pleasure to see how i write down a resume of my History in this game,

Answer: You will be remembered for the things you did lately witch was just unacceptable.

Comment: Fest you did also forget to tell you threatned girl with a lie:

Fest wrote:
b ö Я j á (jƒ) ·$12 •ByS• siger:
then ill post on forum and ill kick girl about that.
b ö Я j á (jƒ) ·$12 •ByS• siger:
and also i going to say that girl cheats because she's june from 1.30
b ö Я j á (jƒ) ·$12 •ByS• siger:
ill be offensive
b ö Я j á (jƒ) ·$12 •ByS• siger:
let my turn

Fest wrote:
b ö Я j á (jƒ) ·$12 •ByS• siger:
also u posted that thing on forum that can alert some people

Answer: I posted as explained earlier a vote for Yoda because he had a spotted history and some issues lately close to the date.

Fest wrote:
b] b ö Я j á (jƒ) ·$12 •ByS•[/b] siger:
and i start to do
b ö Я j á (jƒ) ·$12 •ByS• siger:
bad things to pGv clan
b ö Я j á (jƒ) ·$12 •ByS• siger:
till the DEAD
b ö Я j á (jƒ) ·$12 •ByS• siger:
of the clan

Answer: Fest its not logical to threat to crash pGv and exspect us to like you.

Fest wrote:
b ö Я j á (jƒ) ·$12 •ByS• siger:
as people say we crashed EK
b ö Я j á (jƒ) ·$12 •ByS• siger:
we will do the same on pGV
b ö Я j á (jƒ) ·$12 •ByS• siger:
right , i am bad boy
b ö Я j á (jƒ) ·$12 •ByS• siger:
Who care's

Answer: And one more time dont threat us and exspect us to let u play at our new server.

Fest wrote:
b ö Я j á (jƒ) ·$12 •ByS• siger:
im starting the shit
b ö Я j á (jƒ) ·$12 •ByS• siger:
lets see how pGv dies in 1 hour

Answer:
Ok our site didnt die in 1 hour, but our website died later and the insults was uploaded by you.

PS: If any proof needed i have msn log + screenshots.

holy crap. here i was thinking all the drama was restricted to the bro community. daaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn!

ps: whoa! i actually read through all of seal's post! yay for me.

Well that energy was what fests post called for. I dont want misundestandings made up, by some excluded facts, so things should be more clear now. I rather wanted to had spend the time on teaching CTF witch i still do when someone needs help.

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What a waisting of energy ! So much energy used for destruction ! Imagine that you put that energy in constructive way for improving and building up E+ comunity... Sad...