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cheater or not?
15. June 2010 - 6:02
#91
Germany
Re: cheater or not?
wrote:i mean why should someone shoot enemies through walls
broken sensitivity, happens if u try to be fast but u fuck it up.
15. June 2010 - 7:25
#92
15. June 2010 - 7:43
#93
Re: cheater or not?
wrote:so you're telling you were there on dm14? if you didn't know it was him and he was doing it on purpose (i mean simulating WH) then you *should* consider his behaviour suspective, cuz without this knowlegde it *was* suspective acting, wasn't it? i mean why should someone shoot enemies through walls (or aim on walls and shoot them - not doors and passes and whatever, but walls) - even if he hears jumping, respawning sounds? can't deny that such acting was/is suspective.
what do you think, fala?
I didn't say I was spectating - I just recognised the scene from the movie that I remembered from my perspective (movie @ 5:10). After seeing movie I said that it was wallhack to me. Demos give strange context - "wallhack" in movie was noobish but the play seen in demo was pro-like.
15. June 2010 - 7:50
#94
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Re: cheater or not?
@da beast
Ofc I knew it. I just gave anybody the chance to leave the herd. If i wanted to play smart, i wouldn't have published my PM-thread. Anyway, I also see suspicios moments at this vid, but nobody can say by a "video" that smo is wallhacking by 100 %. Further more, smo with such a good movement is usually smo with experience, and smo with experience wouldn't use a wallhack so obviosly. That is the next point why i dont like the "i am 100 % sure"-comments.
I would never say "I am 100 % sure", if I am not even able to be 100 % sure.
Fala made already the same thing (with less effort) in 2005, and i didn't reacted negative. I did hit with my flat hand on my forehead in 2005 and thought "omg, i am so stupid". But even there i did no say "100 % wallhack".
People forgett what it means to say "100 % cheat", it means to destroy smo reputation and gamefun if this guy doesn't cheat. But here in this community it is meanwhile, that anybody, even those who have actually no cheat-detetion skills like... *shut, no name*,,,.jdfaöjsdöf, don't even care about the consequences if they claim "100 % cheat". This thread proved for me also, that even "skilled" players don't think about what they are saying and it's consequences.
I hope this thread made people more sensitive on what they say, i hope people doublecheck now before they make hard claims.
@Inferno
I never claim that skull is without mistakes, but he is one of the best persons in cheat-recognizing in here. His Failrate is probably 1/10. Also u inferno and ur friends, didn't made it better by starting with insulting behavior, which actually underlines what skull did claim. Since this "Phrase"...... "Methinks thou dost protest too much." (hope i chose the right phrase from dictionary, since directly translated from german it means "Hit dogs bark". You guys did actually nothing on a normal way to explain the strange kills. Ur luck was more or less that Wasp Beast did help u guys with arguments.
wasp beast is btw responsible for that i think twice or tripple before i accuse highpingers.
15. June 2010 - 8:03
#95
Re: cheater or not?
And now every time someone uses a wh can say I ''simulated''....?
15. June 2010 - 8:30
#96
Re: cheater or not?
No, not you.
Seriosly. There is a difference between fala, who play this game since 10 years and trained hard, since he always wanted to be one of the best, and shadow who plays this game just 6 months.
And to be honest from my side, this paranoia became meanwhile annoying.
alike "he kills all, i dunno him, so he must have hax!!!!"
15. June 2010 - 10:48
#98
Moldova, Republic of
Re: cheater or not?
sound whore xd
after i read the big-ass post of fala:
Man, nano-seconds? this is epic.. we shall check that after you give demos
I have an opinion and its hard like a rock. I trust you. |The guy really looks like a wh 2 me 2
15. June 2010 - 10:45
#99
Re: cheater or not?
Hi
I certainly have "the balls" to admit I was wrong, I dont have a problem with that. Very good exercise Fala.
I would have liked to have sound with the 2nd updated link on first page.
Again good job Fala
Regards.
P.S no doubt Accurun will have some negative comments to make to me.
Foxy.
15. June 2010 - 10:54
#100
Re: cheater or not?
@ Fala:
Your big post is just a plain invitation to users to start using wh and similar shit because it's almost ''undetectable''....great!!! 
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i haven't simulated anything, either before, all i did i focused more on the sounds than on movement, and it looks a like i aim the target but in reality i pointing the sound location to have lower reaction time
the situation at 2005 where i was accused about walhacking by my own teammates and other people from this community, was that i just have trained my focus and steady aiming, i didn't wanted to pretend that i am walhacker or anything, but it went out that many people thought i do cheat even if they knew my real nick, because of the walhacking a like behavior and accuracy that sometimes were more than 70%
i haven't done anything to fool anyone, i have played quite normal way, the shots that hit the target thru wall are predicted shots based on sounds, i didn't aimed what i see but what i am hearing, sometimes i missed the shot and it went out that with r_shownormals it looks a like good point to made people think different with the wrong explanation, but reasonable explanation
this topic is to prove u guys that there won't be any 100% sure proofs about wallhacking, because it is almost impossible to detect, and often people trying to explain how the cheat working without taking in consideration that the suspected person does not cheat
i mean they trying to prove a point "he is a cheater" but nobody actually does trying to defend him
also there is wrong tendency to say that someone cheats because he has not enough experience to play this way, thats completely wrong conclusion, even someone who playing by a month or few months can play "sound style"
do not say that the video was crappy or i did some moves for purpose, because even with demos some actions look like walhack and i haven't did anything special at all in those demos
do not say, that i have fooled anyone because i didn't, accept that u were wrong and do not try to defend yourself, the thing it looks like walhack it does not must to mean that someone uses a walhack in reality
do not take back your previous words because u deny by this the mistake u did and trying to hide the shame, deep in u, u will always know that u made a mistake, have balls to admit that, and do not search anything to explain the fail
don't hide yourself under "i wanted to see the demos first" umbrella, because u going to lie yourself, i know what u thought about the movie watching it, so please do not pretend now it was different
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