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Two Proposals ::: New Maps and a Tournament
13. November 2007 - 3:08
Hello BF mates,
I have two proposals that I have mentioned to Dissonance and would like to share with you and the larger E+ Community.
First, I will invite 3 or 4 members from six North/South American Clans (WASP2, BE, POD, BF, HK, and PHC) to download 14 maps from the WASP2 web site.
We will then meet at the Death Head Fraggers (DHF) Server on Saturday, 24 November at 9:00 PM EST (New York Time). DHF will have a private password for the event and we WILL START ON TIME. Stragglers will simply not be able to vote for maps they missed.
We will play Team Death Matches (10 vs. 10) using the DeeX config. The maps will be in a rotation file that sets a 5 minute time limit per map. The total time will be (14 x 5) 1 hour and 10 minutes, plus another 28 minutes to have a yes/no poll on whether the map rocks or sucks. The poll will be taken during the 2 minute warm-up after each map.
The idea is to end up with some new maps for FW/CW matches and for public server rotation.
Second, I would like to invite 6 North/South American Clans to play a Round Robin Tournament that will start in January 2008.
The tournament will incorporate Freeze Tag (FT), Team Death Match (TDM), Clan Arena (CA), and Capture the Flag (CTF). It will unfold like this:
Each Clan plays 1 map (any mutually agreed map) against the other 5 clans in FT. Then we repeat the process in TDM, Clan Arena, and CTF. There will be a winner in each category plus an overall points winner. The total time will be 1 month. I have an Excel chart of the tournament already setup with fictitious Clan names.
The matches will be played on multiple Servers and may be simultaneous, overlap or stand-alone. The frag limits would be FT - 15, TDM - 150, CA - 19, and CTF - 9.
However, there is a complication. It turns out that Dissonance, Nine, and 02 have also been planning a tournament that they wanted to start in December. After speaking with Dissonance, we decided to explore working together and perhaps aim for a joint tournament that starts the middle of January 2008.
One difference in the Dis/Nine/02 proposal is the creation of Fun Teams for clan-less players who would like to join the tournament. Note, a joint tournament will also be larger so I will suggest to Dissonance that we break it up into manageable chunks by handling each game type separately and allowing Clans to compete ONLY in the game types that interest them.
Check the WASP2 Forum for updates to BOTH proposals and check BE's and the Events Forum for future updates to the latter proposal.
WaspKiller
15. November 2007 - 4:45
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Two Proposals ::: New Maps and a Tournament
cool!!
22. November 2007 - 23:58
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Two Proposals ::: New Maps and a Tournament
Hello,
Please download the MAPS from the link below. The DHF server will have allowdownloads turned off on Saturday in preparation for the Maps Event that night.
Your respective Clan leader has been given the password to access the server on that night, and will disseminate it to 3 members of his choosing.
I ask that you not play the maps until the Event so as not to bias your vote.
WaspKiller
PS: I shouldn't need to say this but just in case... the maps should be copied to your baseq3 folder (directory).
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Damn. I can see you had a few questions. Well, that's good my man.
Question: how will the map event be organized?
Answer: I will Post the complete details, some of which you are asking here, to each invited Clan's Forum by Thursday (tomorrow) midday US EST.
Question: Randomized teams? i would guess so since its 10v10. will more be admitted if more show up?
Answer: Dissonance will have a better understanding of whether to lock the teams in place or have randomized teams.
Personally, I don't care as the EMPHASIS is NOT really on high frag counts. The emphasis will be to examine the map for suitability to the E+ style of playing.
It does not matter whether that style is Freeze Tag or CTF. It does not matter when the map is small or big. If fact, on the latter point, I guarantee you that there will NOT be sufficient spawn points on several of the maps to handle a 10 vs. 10 match. So, I fully expect some spec'ing to be done on some of the smaller maps.
As to whether "more be admitted if more show up?" The Server is a 20 slot server. It will have a password for the event. That password will be given to each Clan to share with 3 or 4 members.
I wanted to give at least 6 Clans the opportunity to help decide on the suitability of some maps. I could give access to more but if everyone showed up then quite a few ppl will be unable to access.
Question: 5 minutes to play a map? i know its for fun and to decide on maps and think through a lot but..
Answer: 5 minutes is absolutely sufficient to make a gut decision on whether the map is suitable for E+. The poll has 2 choices: Rocks or Sucks.
Remember, I am not asking the participants to comment on what game type the map is more suited for or whether the map is too small or too big. These are questions best left to Server owners and Clans (who may choose to use them in matches).
Also, at the end of the event, any participant is welcomed to stay and frag in earnest all they want, for as long as they want. The only maps that will be in rotation that night will be these maps. Players can callvote to skip the maps they did not like.
Question: is it just a bunch of random maps that someone has downloaded?
Answer: Yes. It is a few select maps from the many that I have accumulated from 2001 to 2007. So, if they seriously SUCK, you know who to blame for wasting your time.
Question: what happens to the maps when they are positively voted?
Answer: They will be automatically become part of the rotation at DHF
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More importantly, they will be presented to all E+ Server Owners in North and South America.
The owners do not have to add these maps to their rotation. However, they may be more inclined to do so given the recommendation of all the distinguished Clans that participated in the decision process.
Note: Out of the 14 maps, there is no set number of positively voted maps that I am looking for. We may end up with 2 maps or 10 maps. The point is just to have some new maps on the Public Servers and hopefully new maps that Clans can agree to for FWs and CWs.
Question: being this is composed of all north/south american clans it won't have much effect on the euro gameplay.
Answer. One step at a time. Every task is easier to tackle if you break it down into manageable chunks.
The task of then getting the operators of E+ Servers in Europe to consider adding the maps to their rotation file would best be handled by someone better known in the European Community than me. Someone like Term or Budman, or Dissonance or Spider, etc.
Granted, European tastes may differ from that of Clans in the Americas. But are the Clans in this region incompetent as to what constitutes a good E+ map?
If the Europeans look at the maps, great, but quite frankly, this question is way beyond what I am trying to achieve.
Question: do you actually think it could work? even clan wars rarely go smoothly.
Answer: Damn Skippy I do. Cause if I ran the world the shit would be straightened out inside a week. If I am lying it's only because my .50 caliber machine gun ran out of ammo or I am drowning in the blood of the disposed.
Whew... After that lengthy opine I hope you guys show up and show up early.