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well ofc we can't emulate the human behaviour (yet) 100%. but you can make a specific bot for a specific .aas file. is not what spiterbot mod do??? the bots from this mod can do strafe jumps.. circle jumps (from upper floor to rail gun), they can timed properly the map items and more.. is not a human behaviour??

They do it because they follow a very concise, ordered and limited set of instructions, patterns and priorities. Their every action is dictated by a specific trigger. They don't account for 99% of other, relevant factors in every circumstance, have no inherent autonomy over their actions (meaning they cannot break out of their routine) and cannot observe, analyze and respond to things not included in their very limited programming.

In short, no, they, and by extension, their actions, are anything but human.

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well ofc we can't emulate the human behaviour (yet) 100%. but you can make a specific bot for a specific .aas file. is not what spiterbot mod do??? the bots from this mod can do strafe jumps.. circle jumps (from upper floor to rail gun), they can timed properly the map items and more.. is not a human behaviour??

They do it because they follow a very concise, ordered and limited set of instructions, patterns and priorities. Their every action is dictated by a specific trigger. They don't account for 99% of other, relevant factors in every circumstance, have no inherent autonomy over their actions (meaning they cannot break out of their routine) and cannot observe, analyze and respond to things not included in their very limited programming.

In short, no, they, and by extension, their actions, are anything but human.

One could say humans are programmed from birth, and have a limited set of instructions that are parameters for their actions. The term inheretent autonomy would imply a genetic sequencing with built in conditioning for certain scenarios. True, that any AI would not be a decendant of a previous creation, but this does not mean that AI can't learn to adapt within the limitations of their programing. The only real question is, can you create an artificial sentiant being?

Bots on q3 do not have the ability to feel, this is an ability commonly confused with the ability to learn, and has long been a part of the nature/nurture debate. AI in q3 is possible, but not to the extrodinary levels of a brain. A pc running 64bit can only proccess so much information. Now in illustrative comparison, how many bits would the human brain be summised to? So the barrier is actualy processing power. Even compared to the brain of a rat, the most powerful pc pales in comparison.

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now lets pin it to something everyone could understand.

First to code a proper intelligence on a pc will get a nobel price for creating some new kind of life

Dont get confused between intelligence and self awareness (life).

can we make a self aware bot - no

can we make an intelligent bot - yes

Intelligence without a soul.

What would be most profound is having a bot \ragequit.

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an intelligent bot should come to the conclusion to be aware, shouldn't he?

Well, the thing lacking in the case of q3 bots is sensory input, their being is merely the program and therefore they do not actualy exist. The bot as we see it is only a representation created on a monitor.

Living organisms have a base programming, which limits their intelligence, same as the bot. Many argue that lower organisms are not self aware, but do attain a level of intelligence needed to survive and adapt to their enviroment, some argue that the need to survive is in itself evidence of self awareness.

We could add more lines of code, sub routines, and make the bot anticipate every move its opponent makes, but we couldn't create a bot that would write its own program.

So you see, the point I am making is that a bot could be programmed smarter than you or I, but could never be coded with a single line that allows it to percieve its own existence, as we do not know what existence is, after thousands of years of scholarly speculation.

I think the term Artificial Intelligence is used in the mainstream as a subsitute for Artificial Life, with people searching for a way to create 'frankenstiens monster'. It would be good to see some data on the IQ of some of the latest creations, I know that japan has manafactured a robot with the IQ of a cat, but it hasn't got a soul, and ergo could never be aware of its own existence.

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sametime they say the soul is an imagination of humanity.

Exactly. So how can one create something that is perhaps non existent?

Intelligence exists, and can be emulated, but life, who knows what it is.

"Its life Jim, but not as we know it."