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The Jargon File contains a bunch of definitions of the term ‘hacker’, most having to do with technical adeptness and a delight in solving problems and overcoming limits. If you want to know how to become a hacker, though, only two are really relevant.

There is a community, a shared culture, of expert programmers and networking wizards that traces its history back through decades to the first time-sharing minicomputers and the earliest ARPAnet experiments. The members of this culture originated the term ‘hacker’. Hackers built the Internet. Hackers made the Unix operating system what it is today. Hackers run Usenet. Hackers make the World Wide Web work. If you are part of this culture, if you have contributed to it and other people in it know who you are and call you a hacker, you're a hacker.

The hacker mind-set is not confined to this software-hacker culture. There are people who apply the hacker attitude to other things, like electronics or music — actually, you can find it at the highest levels of any science or art. Software hackers recognize these kindred spirits elsewhere and may call them ‘hackers’ too — and some claim that the hacker nature is really independent of the particular medium the hacker works in. But in the rest of this document we will focus on the skills and attitudes of software hackers, and the traditions of the shared culture that originated the term ‘hacker’.

There is another group of people who loudly call themselves hackers, but aren't. These are people (mainly adolescent males) who get a kick out of breaking into computers and phreaking the phone system. Real hackers call these people ‘crackers’ and want nothing to do with them. Real hackers mostly think crackers are lazy, irresponsible, and not very bright, and object that being able to break security doesn't make you a hacker any more than being able to hotwire cars makes you an automotive engineer. Unfortunately, many journalists and writers have been fooled into using the word ‘hacker’ to describe crackers; this irritates real hackers no end.

The basic difference is this: hackers build things, crackers break them.

the problem is, they naming selfs hackers, and they think that they are brilient by destroing things, 90% of this are done by software that these dumbs downloads from "hackers" web pages

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typing "u r an hacksor" is complement, but u can use it like this "fucking hacksor" and that is not complemet eny more, the word become bad word bycose of what the guys naming themself "hackers" doing

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just ROFL (typing "u r an hacksor" is complement,)
so is it ?? man thats some of the badest things u could ever call a "hacker" its same like haxx0r thats such bad bad "nickname" for a "hacker"
cause only little sub-n4ps or things/ppl (ppl=not many times) are called like this and i think (hope) u know this the if not .......
i get all good things back i have seen/heared/readet here in forum or e+ from u

we own them in IRC ever with such words all this kinds of creature .......