@ BRO-Admins, wanna help to grow...?

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mow Q [EN]
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i see for Excessive Plus much more potencial as it is now, it can grow quick, if u don't exclude the old excessive clans.

Why do i think, that u guys exclude the old excessive clans.

Easy to answer;
1. The most X+ Servers have very customized configs, which doesn't have much to do with the old excessive. For example the sticky nades (or modified nades). With this nades u can't move fast through the map. Good u changed it maybe cause of the
spammers, but good excessiveplayers don't use the nades for killing, and if yes, they use it not as spam, they also aim with it. So, that will be No. 1 of the X-Nature.cfg

2. The MG, good, in ur eyes it's alot of overpowered, but that means not at all, that u don't can have a great aim with it, in old excessive there was players who was much better as others with it and so on. But we don't wanna change everything back, we wanna have a weaker mg, too, so maybe damage 30-35 instead of 45 of the orignal. Especially many of u guys are killing faster with ur Railgun as many of us oldskools with mg, that would be just fair.

3. The Railgun, sure, in old excessive it's a absolut dumb weapon, it made just sence to use it on free maps to kick somebody out of map Happy. The instagib version is here and good idea from u guys, it is a sencefull weapon, and it gives us mg user no change, so, the old excessiveplayer are agreed withit, but a bit higher cycle would be cool, 1,5 times faster as on bro.cfg.

4. BFG, the BFG is the most important movement weapon of old excessive together with nades and no excessive player agreed with making it weaker or change something of spread and so on, cause it change the movement possibility, too. BFG = most important weapon for moving for example in CTF, means, complete unchanged BFG in X-Nature.cfg

5. Shotgun, the Shotgun should be unchanged, cause it is really not as strong as the instagib rail, it needs mostly 2 shots to kill somebody on medium range, and on very short range this weapon isn't very easy to aim. But here we are open for not to strange suggestions.

6. Plasmagun, the Plasmagun is also an important movement weapon, mainly to climb walls, but to kill, its a pure spam weapon, so we would agree of the version of deex.cfg, but with more climbpower.

7. Rockets, the rockets in old excessive are also pure spam weapons, but in small rooms it was always a great movementweapon, so, we agree with the bro or deex rockets (seems for me the same, didnt really checked).

8. Multijumps, Mulitjumps are very usefull and funny, that will be included in X-Nature.cfg.

1. Unchanged Nades (maybe just the damage a lot reduced, cause of spammers)
2. Weaker MG (damage 30-35, instead of 45)
3. Instagib Railgun
4. Complete unchanged BFG
5. Unchanged Shotgun (but open for suggestions (not to strange))
6. Plasmagun as deex.cfg but with more climbpower
7. Rockets as deex or bro
8. Multijumps

So, if we all toghether can figure our a config, which both sides can get happy, than x+ can get maybe the old excessiveplayers, too. That means, that there can be wars between EN and gen-x for example, and i think, it would be cool for u guys, too, to see and learn about new playstyles, nades an bfg movement, lg-runs, naderuns bfg caps and so on. And many of us would be able to have fun to use the railgun instead of MG for example.

So, i have on please more, is it possible, that EN can run the X-Nature.cfg just for one day (or maybe weekend) to figure it out and to get more suggetions. I need a X+-Side meaning, too, cause we are allowed to run this config on the excessiveplus.net FFA server to see the X-Sides meaning.

It would be great to hear from u guys, it can be a other server, too, but it must be a popular one, this admin who agrees with that for one day or weekend, send me a mail please, to


Sorry, for the many mistakes in that text, but i am at work and i have written it fast...

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@ BRO-Admins, wanna help to grow...?

Mowli, I still think the best is the basic Excessive version 4 without Joust, Quadfly, and Hook [and wivout rockets & plasma if you hate spammers Winking ]

I think we really should disable rockets & plasma, and I don't like that instagib rail, and joust makes it too easy. If you try that config you'll see.

I really disagree m8 Thinking .

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mow Q [EN]
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ruben, u really don't understand the background. Have u recognized
that the most servers are running on a instagib config? U ever
played on bro or deex server? u saw the rocket there, the rocket there
is a nice weapon, also the plasma.

In my eyes the new guys and the old guys can just came togehter, if both
sides are agreeing to come to each other closer. For example, they accept
a mg, which is a bit stronger as on their config, but weaker as in original
config and we have to accept the instagib.

i think that u haven't played in the complete excessiveplus, i was an nearly
all servers each server 10-15 times. (raelly on all servers which are a bit
popular and not always empty)

if u wanna play "just" the old excessive without that 2 weapons, than u can go back to 1.30 with weapons disabled, or u can stay on the excessiveplus.net servers.

but that don't helps to grow the mod, that helps just ur self. and ruben, all things have to get testet, before u put a meaning about it...

go on the x-nature (EN Ffa server, and callvote the config "X-Nature") to see the beta version of it, but u cant test it alone, thats why we also wanna test it on popular servers. The prob of our servers is, that they are sucky and bad pinged with many of u guys, but we change soon the hoster with a great pinged server, but atm we can't test the config on just our servers.

*RuBeN!*
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AAaah excuse me i didnt get your point, my bad Laughing
and I have played on Bro's, Deex's and RING0's servers like... ~15 times

finally, i got it, great idea mate, ima test that beta config right away Winking

Yeah, that config is great, I have to get used to it now, but only, the "joust" mode kills the excessive BFG and nade moving spirit, in my opinion.

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perhaps this can be done somehow ... you really need to speak with mulle though ...

Better a broken promise than none at all.
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Great idea Mowly. I would love to test this cfg. I agree there should be only one mod. Not the "real" excessive and bro-like fractions.

I am just thinking about RING0 servers. I know Nihil and Faith are testing new cfg for clan arena. Maybe theese two projects can be combined ?

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hehe nice Big grin

let's see what we get open for opinions and possiblitys, i think this thread should run 1-2 days, before we finish the config. I can uplad the config this evening for everybody to test for themselfs.

But finally i would like to see how the config gets accepted of the mass, and that i wanna try to coordinate.

The prob is, the time Happy

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I think it would be the best to run it on all servers simultaneously to get a good feedback. Many CTF players for example do rarely play FFA and vice versa.
Also it would be good if player try to connect to different servers on that day to get in touch with different play styles. (Excessive / BRO)

Let's give it a try.

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I dont like that in some of the servers, the railgun, instead of shooting once evry second of so, it shoots like 5 times a second =/
Takes away the skill of using the weapon.
Everything is E+ is perfect besides that

mow Q [EN]
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don't wanna be a ass to u now, where i ever postet, that we
need 5 shots per second? I bet u haven't read the thread. I was
talking about maybe all 0,75 seconds a shot.

Even i have written, that the old rail of orignial excessive is dumb!

Dumb question, but are u afraid to get more competition?

and pls don't hurt me, but do u like it to give a final opinion, before u
have given it a try?

that what easy said sounds great, but is it possible to realise it? Cause
the meanings of both sites are important for me.

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:-k