Chain reaction !!!
Bad observation
I like TDM game type. And usualy on (HK) TDM server always people play TDM. In that time PB was OFF. After some time PB is on always on that server. Now we have this situation. Server is empty : :!:
Now my conclusion is: Noobs come on servers which aren't PB ON and play. After noobs populate server experianced users come to play on well populated servers, because we dont wanna stay on empty servers even couple experianced players on.
Now we have chain reaction and conclusion that less and less people play E+, but is wrong. So, please noobs mean life for us. PB on, no noobs on server, no noobs no experianced players and that is close circle. Then noobs wanna play as experianced players and they slowly come to our comunity after while they are here as experianced users.
Paradox is that I apeal that public servers wich aren't visited well should be PB OFF with good administrators which are most of time reachable to kick out cheaters.
Exceptions are 2!S TAG server, MR TAG server. Some FFA servers.
Your comments are welcome. I wrote here what I explore and that is true. Now I am sad because I dont play TDM lately.
Best regards
I agree totally, Rena, especially that the servers need to be watched more closely by admins. I think a team of admins from the Server Admins Corner forum would be great, to select admins who are very active across many servers and have rcon be available to them.
Bad observation
Exceptions are 2!S TAG server, MR TAG server. Some FFA servers.
Your comments are welcome. I wrote here what I explore and that is true.
well tag is popularest of all game times for progamers
and 2!s ffa doesnt has pb
i would like to have a pb_sv_eanble system like on hk servers but with pb_sv.cfg and not without like on hk servers
i would be active enough but as i know some people like "mow" dont like me
this problem i had ages with 2!S Freeze!
i let it pb 0 and pure 0, i tryed pb over and over, 1st time, server stayed empty, so 0 again, 2nd time server was populated with arround 5 percent of normal usage, off again, 3rd time, server was populated with maybe 15 percent, off again, 4th time server stayed populated.
The same thing happend after the 4th pb try with pure.
So, before 2!S Freeze was populated with pb+pure i tryed it arround 6 or 7 months, step by step, i gave the people time u set their q3.
Since months the server is now pb+pure, and it is populated (fix port meanwhile). Since it is pure and pb, i barely have seen new players on it. For new players i have the other servers without pb+pure, and if a new player like the mod, he will look out, how he can play for example on freeze or 1on1 server.
Its a matter if an admin can w8 or not. I just can tell, that it is pain in the ass for the payer of the server if server stays empty and money has for me a big weight.
greetz
€dit: Raven, what has personal matters to search in this topic? Can u stay just 1 time on serious facts?
€dit: Raven, what has personal matters to search in this topic? Can u stay just 1 time on serious facts?
Paradox is that I apeal that public servers wich aren't visited well should be PB OFF with |||good administrators||| which are most of time reachable to kick out cheaters.
well i would have enoguh time and im around on most servers many people know me and know how to contact me
but the problem is if i would get an overall admin i need rcon for ur server maybe too and well... the rest u know
Concerning the non-pb/pure servers, i would suggest a server-broadcast shown from time to time, something like
"THIS IS A QUAKE 3 MOD - visit www.excessiveplus.net and its forums for downloads and information!"
Probably would lead some new guys on the right path.
Regards,
Absti
In short - i don't have the possibility to play quake for a unknown, but probably long time, [edit:] so i'm inactive now for some time. Just lost my tag.
Cya,
Absti
yes, HK TDM is empty with PB on.and that since like 15 days. i will have to turn it off.
;we ll try again next year
gah...wonko just decided to delete 3 paragraphs he wrote on the whole thing and make it short.
u could approach the issue of how to popularize ur server different ways i guess....(not an "Experienced" server admin therefore "noob" to the thing so u mite want to ignore my comments)...
1. better names....difficult to see that something as simple as this could affect the popularity of a server..but to put it bluntly a "noob" will choose a server with a better name, all other things being approximately equal, simply becuase he doesnt know better....offered a choice between say "usa-hk freeze server" and "Deex's freeze orgy" he/she/it will inevitably choose the latter....pretty demonstrable fact...
2. make allowances - err consider that all ur comments, messages etc on the server itself are mostly not aimed at the "experienced" player..cos he/she/it already knows the stuff anyway....so keep it simple...make sure ur getting the message across....most servers i know dont even try to educate their players about the existence of e+.net spider and forums....
3. admining - the key issue for me is that almost NEVER do u find an admin on the server....i think e+ needs a better system of admining..there need to be more admins/ more active admins....plus u need to let people know that admins even though not available on the server will respond to enquiries/complaints/suggestions immediately (as in within a day)....and u need to do it too...
but all these may seem and often are rather academic points....simple state of the matter is that e+ has way too many servers considering the number of people playing e+....i guess we need to quantify this idea if we need to perhaps consider cutting down on the server number?....cos i mean all is well when u say ur clan needs a private server to train and do cws and stuff but really if ur prepared to pay the money to have a server for ur clan and have it empty most of the time its ur call....
ps: dang ..."short" indeed wonko...
this is old debate and one that doesnt have answer - my observations are that this community has grown by not using PB on the majority of servers and new players have been able to play without the added hassle of force to spectate and also this has had a negative effect of other mods viewing e+ as a cheats mod...
use PB when needed (when in doubt of players integrity) or use crontab to switch PB on and off at random intervals or use callvote to enable PB. i personaly dont like playing with PB on as it does cause intermitent lag which bugs me, i would say however that all CW's should be pb_sv_enable.
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BTW no {d*r*t} anymore, what's happened : :roll:
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