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cheater or not?
15. June 2010 - 18:31
#151
United Kingdom
Re: cheater or not?
OK
I have 2 things to confess:
1. I skipped couple pages of posts in this thread.
2. I voted "he cheats!"
@fala
Now I would like to see why did u actually created this thread ?
I have two versions:
1st) IMO (i could be wrong) u wanted to show us all that:
- when accusing someone of cheating we need more then .avi,
we need demos; not 1, 2 or 3 demos, but as many as we can provide,
to see player in many situations and on many different maps.
- creating poll about "cheater or not?" is not good, people accuse
too fast, don't have enought wisdom or just go with the flow
and vote same as rest voted, or simply aren't objective.
- we need to pick group of people who have "the wisdom" about hacks
and who will be objective, and in situations which normally others
would react without thinking, they would analize and give answer after
deeply thinking about it.
2nd) IMO [i could be wrong (but i'm not)] u wanted to fool us all again:
You seem to put alot of effort in trying to fool whole e+ community,
first the mascarade with hq and dancing shadow (did u actually admit that
you are the same person ? or was it only once when finally u said the truth
to your clanmates from fag while beeing drunk? ).
Now some shit with fake wh ? Well to be honest I still see wh in some actions
of the video that u provided, u are oldschool player but I don't realy know
why peole respect you around here.
I could understand the crap with fake identity but seriously how can
we all now believe in you ? IMO you are not predictable and who
knows if u really didn't have wh ? Well some your fans will say
"nahhh he is fala he never cheats, he is good man."
Yeah, and what about those who thought hq was good man ?
After pulling the crap with dancing shadow and kicking all
your old friends on butt, i don't really know why they suddenly
lick your ballz so much ? YOU LIED TO YOUR FRIENDS !
IMO you are playing with us all again and this is just a preparation
to use wh just like that, without any circumstances.
I mean, who will accuse you now ? after creating this thread ? huh ?
IMO u just like to lie and make fools of e+ players and u putting
alot of effort in it.
Yesterday when u wrote to me on "gadu-gadu communicator"
I really thought u wanna know my oppinion about the thread.
Now I know u just wanted to make a fool out of me :E thx
... and yes... I won't decide anymore when question is:
"cheats or not" I will leave it to people who know what they are doing.
btw
I'll try to gather people to make team like that,
people who will analize demos when someone gets accused of cheating.
And now who should be in team like that ?
Sorry but fala, but can't trust u anymore.
15. June 2010 - 18:57
#152
Re: cheater or not?
uh imo it was an intesting test, and many didnt pass it, and he could only do this that way, fooling us.
btw u have demos, if u really think there is something wrong there, go check and if ur right ban him.
@terror
Mow must be in this team!! he was 100% sure from start!!))))))))))))) smartass:D
15. June 2010 - 18:45
#153
Re: cheater or not?
I remember i was have same actions like on movie not that long time ago 
15. June 2010 - 19:14
#154
15. June 2010 - 19:26
#155
Re: cheater or not?
aww I didn't joke, really like dm14 and have similar actions!!
15. June 2010 - 19:31
#156
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Re: cheater or not?
wrote:before i think it was a true thread with really asking this community what u think about a meaning from a video with demos... cheat or not cheat...
bad joke man bad joke....no trust anymore from my side too...
How is it a bad joke? Can't you see the link between this and Shadow's case?
15. June 2010 - 19:35
#157
15. June 2010 - 19:49
#158
Germany
Re: cheater or not?
wrote:
2nd) IMO [i could be wrong (but i'm not)] u wanted to fool us all again:
You seem to put alot of effort in trying to fool whole e+ community,
first the mascarade with hq and dancing shadow (did u actually admit that
you are the same person ? or was it only once when finally u said the truth
to your clanmates from fag while beeing drunk? ).
to be honest, its real work and pleasure to get away from ur normal nick, sure, i have a lot of people who like to ask me for this and that whenever im around, but if im ingame, im playing and not fucking chatting, u guys can always ask me on forums, but not ingame.
if u want to go to the top, u need to cut every contact which is not worth it, u need ur own freedom to experiemt stuff without people commenting how oddly good u play right now or how oddly bad (for example if i play lowsens, i acc high while on my actual sens i suck sometimes but in the end its a better one)
the reason why hq was gone are mostly up to him self. leave it at that.
wrote:Now some shit with fake wh ? Well to be honest I still see wh in some actions
of the video that u provided, u are oldschool player but I don't realy know
why peole respect you around here.
fake wh? i didnt consider it being wh at all from the first moment. if, then a custom aimhack but that one was cleared as i had the detailed demos which provided more pixel movement in some scenes showed, where in the avi the mouse seemed to stop.
btw, what u think about this guy?
http://www.speedyshare.com/files/22975528/lul.rar
that are kinda like 5-8 mins of gaming of him.
wrote:I could understand the crap with fake identity but seriously how can
we all now believe in you ? IMO you are not predictable and who
knows if u really didn't have wh ? Well some your fans will say
"nahhh he is fala he never cheats, he is good man."
Yeah, and what about those who thought hq was good man ?
actually u have a point there and i dont think fala will call the point bad.
actually there is NO way to determine whos clean and who cheats completly beside obvious/pb kicks.
even i said about myself that other people (like asuran) can not be sure of me being clean. but without people like fala and me or the lem crew or some mr's u guys would still think pb detects all hacks and customhacks are just obvious wallhacks or autoshoots.
u need to have ur own reason why u trust somebody.
people trust narc becuz they know him for a long time.
i trust fala becuz i know that being the first is not his target in this mod. (though he wouldnt mind being)
wrote:IMO you are playing with us all again and this is just a preparation
to use wh just like that, without any circumstances.
why myroad aint banned then? hes been caught 1 time actively hacking, anothertime for railjumpscript, 1 time for cvar and then one big assucation about his odd high fragcount all off sudden which dropped to his level before straight after the discussion started. (quote: myroad:"it's like im hacking omg, stop me" -ingame)
there actually was a reason i put his status on untrustable while u did nothing to keep it there.
wrote:I mean, who will accuse you now ? after creating this thread ? huh ?
IMO u just like to lie and make fools of e+ players and u putting
alot of effort in it.
Yesterday when u wrote to me on "gadu-gadu communicator"
I really thought u wanna know my oppinion about the thread.
Now I know u just wanted to make a fool out of me :E thx
noone or everyone. its been a social expiriement and as that, very successfull and gave me also expirience eventhough i did not know about it (ps: fala buzzed me also privatly, still this is one of the good jokes, they aint ment to actually make u guys look like fools or retards.
wrote:... and yes... I won't decide anymore when question is:
"cheats or not" I will leave it to people who know what they are doing.
btw
I'll try to gather people to make team like that,
people who will analize demos when someone gets accused of cheating.
And now who should be in team like that ?
Sorry but fala, but can't trust u anymore.
actually there is such a team behind the scenes but we lack activity so we are right now writing a tutorial. however this will not help u guys evolve any anticheating skillz since u already lack the suspicion feeling right now. its the so called 'bollocks factor'
wrote:
1st) IMO (i could be wrong) u wanted to show us all that:
- when accusing someone of cheating we need more then .avi,
we need demos; not 1, 2 or 3 demos, but as many as we can provide,
to see player in many situations and on many different maps.
- creating poll about "cheater or not?" is not good, people accuse
too fast, don't have enought wisdom or just go with the flow
and vote same as rest voted, or simply aren't objective.
- we need to pick group of people who have "the wisdom" about hacks
and who will be objective, and in situations which normally others
would react without thinking, they would analize and give answer after
deeply thinking about it.
i couldnt have said it better myself, this is very much the truth.
fala has always being fighting against false accusations rather then busting cheaters.
as good player he needed to show people whats possible and what not. I ended up being the main demo analyser around here which kind of protects myself, but still i know that there are a lot of people talking behind my back about how i might be the best hidden cheater in e+.
remember how all people hopped onto my shadow video? sure, the demos were there, everybody could look without problems at them myself, but i mostly try to keep my videos so that there are all circumstances given in the vid. (not on that one i posted though).
with the demo u guys would have easily seen how fala could do that without haxx needed.
15. June 2010 - 19:49
#159
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Re: cheater or not?
dear terror
no idea why u bring up the story with id's hq, ds, fala. u say u were friends, if u really would have been friends, you would know the reasons, and u would understand it. I can't say fala is my best friend, but from my feeling we can say we are kinda friends, and I understand it.
but actually this has nothing to do with this whole thread.
pitty u skipped some pages, otherwise you would understand it maybe better, especially the intention of this thread. It also showed that many who think they are cheatbusters, that they are not so good in cheat-detection, or they learned at least they have to do a close and intense look on it before they make save accusations.
And this is good, imo.
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as i have said this is not a joke and i haven't fooled no one
all actions are normal game play, and with wrong reasoning u can see the whole different picture of it
once again:
- recorded demos of me, six games in a row
- chosen the target "the person on demos is a cheater u need to convince people hes cheating"
why?
because many people judge the material in a wrong way, u can bust anyone this way
if u don't believe my example do the same like i did and then u will know it is possible to ban completely innocent person like yourself... (this need a deeper reflection about the past action doesn't it?)
before i started with this there on forum was already post like "u can ban anyone this way" and the fact many sees cheating while i can easy explain whats going on and the people get banned for it was alarming
if someone is paranoid enough he can be convinced his mother is not his mother!
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the personal part:
@terror:
as i already pointed out i haven't fooled u, it's only u who have choice the answer, i haven't said to u "click on: he cheats"
some peoples was more sure about guilty of this person because that was i who submitted the material, imagine any random unknown person doing that and then if u would be know its fala playing... both we know that the chances for ban would be 0
some people went with the flow of others
some people believed my reasoning
some wanted to see the cheat there
> terror wrote:
> did u actually admit that you are the same person ?
no i haven't because i am not hq
(i have explained it already many times even to u and still peoples don't get the point)
- i haven't lied to no one of my friends, and i haven't kicked anyones butt
- about the respect they give me, have no idea i feel like any other guy who's like to play q3, u should ask them if u want the answer
- and once again i haven't made a fool of no one, i know it is hard to accept some things and then it needs little bit more than a open chitchat so here we are :]
- and i really wanted opinion of u about the thread because no mater how u would choice this would help u to evolve like anyone other person taking a part in this topic including myself
to know how the sex feels u need to have sex, to know how it feels like u get punched in face u need to be punched in face, other than that u won't understand the obvious things (asm learned me this)
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