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@ Fala and the rest Happy

Fail 1) I know betatesters didnt designed ACS but they test it. Thats why they called testers. But you know something more then me or the others. Like skull say he can bypass the anticehat "easy". He knows how the ACS works so he manage to bypass it. For me Beta testers shouldnt play Rank games when the have access to those information. But anyway....

Fail 2) I dont want to know how the ACS works, like you say if all people know how it works then they can hack it more easily. I said it have 2 mistakes that makes me feel uncomfortable. If for example we go to play 1v1 in RSQT server, i can easy set the level of the Anticheat to 0 with 1 command because i know the rcon pass. So no support from the extra anticheat programs we have. So i can use my hacks without droped myself for cheating. So with this move i have the advantage over you. If there was in the scorebar a word like ACS LVL 4 like Pure and Punkbuster are visible then you will be sure its working. You dont get it?
Second mistake was Server admins dont have some log file that they can check why someone dropeed suspected cheating. Example n2, We go to 3M war server and we play 1v1, after a while i dropped suspected cheating. That makes me cheater? Who can see what the ACS spot me? What values did ACS saw about me. What was the stats that makes me dropped. None, except beta testers not afterwords but this moment when the game is played.

Fail 3) The rest of your quotes are nonsens.

This is my last reply for this matter coz i am tired. This discussion leads nowhere from the moment devs are not here. We cant do nothing right now except wait until they will come back. And 1 more thing like Fps said cheating is not only when someone is using WH or Autoshoot etc.. Cheating is when someone is having some advantage over the others. You are just lucky i denied to Epsi when he ask me if i wanted to be Rank mod before FPS become when Skull left. Manny things would change around here and then you will see what the word FAIR GAME means.

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@ Fala and the rest Happy

Fail 1) I know betatesters didnt designed ACS but they test it. Thats why they called testers. But you know something more then me or the others.* Like skull say he can bypass the anticehat "easy". He knows how the ACS works so he manage to bypass it. For me Beta testers shouldnt play Rank games when the have access to those information. But anyway....**

We talked so many about it but u haven't even realized we are not beta-testers, we was in developing crew... so yes we know how it does work...
* u are user and u want to have developers knowledge because u don't trust nobody...

** HUGE PARANOIA

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Fail 2) I dont want to know how the ACS works,* like you say if all people know how it works then they can hack it more easily. I said it have 2 mistakes that makes me feel uncomfortable. If for example we go to play 1v1 in RSQT server, i can easy set the level of the Anticheat to 0 with 1 command because i know the rcon pass. So no support from the extra anticheat programs we have. So i can use my hacks without droped myself for cheating. So with this move i have the advantage over you. If there was in the scorebar a word like ACS LVL 4 like Pure and Punkbuster are visible then you will be sure its working. You dont get it?
Second mistake was Server admins dont have some log file that they can check why someone dropeed suspected cheating.
** Example n2, We go to 3M war server and we play 1v1, after a while i dropped suspected cheating. That makes me cheater? Who can see what the ACS spot me? What values did ACS saw about me. What was the stats that makes me dropped.* None, except beta testers not afterwords but this moment when the game is played.

* in one sentence u say u don't want to know how ACS work and two sentences later u ask how ACS work, dude have u completely lost your mind, or are u that much intelligent?

** for that u wrote a suggestion in suggestions forum and u will find those in new release and stop to blame random ppl because its complete different topic

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Fail 3) The rest of your quotes are nonsens.

This is my last reply for this matter coz i am tired. This discussion leads nowhere from the moment devs are not here. We cant do nothing right now except wait until they will come back. And 1 more thing like Fps said cheating is not only when someone is using WH or Autoshoot etc.. Cheating is when someone is having some advantage over the others. You are just lucky i denied to Epsi when he ask me if i wanted to be Rank mod before FPS become when Skull left. Manny things would change around here and then you will see what the word FAIR GAME* means.

they are as much nonsense as yours claims and demands, that's why i used them to show u how much abstract things u ask for

* are u trying to imply again that i am not fair? isn't it a paranoia? u are rather insane and that's why the discussion with u leads to nowhere

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For me Beta testers shouldnt play Rank games when the have access to those information. But anyway....

But I also stated that other people with the same knowledge can spot me same easy, besides the problem I would need a pb proof hack which I have not at hand. And the limits of the E+ AC are physical, therefor we stumbled over the bypass when we tested out stuff to actually make sure Players do not get kicked wrongly to often.

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If for example we go to play 1v1 in RSQT server, i can easy set the level of the Anticheat to 0 with 1 command because i know the rcon pass.

Yeah and every Server admin has the free will to do so, any dorkhead who wants to cheat on his own server Just will say don't care to you if he complains.
We only allow every Admin to decide upon if cheaters get kicked automaticly or not, its quite similar to pb.

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So with this move i have the advantage over you. If there was in the scorebar a word like ACS LVL 4 like Pure and Punkbuster are visible then you will be sure its working. You dont get it?

Therefor we implented the access to AC reports for people with the knowledge, so you don't have the advantage.

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Second mistake was Server admins dont have some log file that they can check why someone dropeed suspected cheating. Example n2, We go to 3M war server and we play 1v1, after a while i dropped suspected cheating. That makes me cheater? Who can see what the ACS spot me? What values did ACS saw about me. What was the stats that makes me dropped.

It is mentioned in logs, you should learn spelling and the abc. In case of a drop of a trustworthy person, we always rechecked, since ANY bug that needs to be fixed either in code or client is stable, same as a cheat. Only a person hiding his cheat is not stable, such as dsharpe who couldn't reproduce his reason for reports on any pb server.

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Manny things would change around here and then you will see what the word FAIR GAME means.

Why I never seen you propose something to make the game more fair? oh forgot, you actually mean your style is unfair to the actual fairness. IF you got any proposals, post them somewhere or pm me, If you are REALLY up for a FAIR game we need to discuss that out.

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@ Fala and the rest Happy

cheating is not only when someone is using WH or Autoshoot etc.. Cheating is when someone is having some advantage over the others. .

sorry for interfeering , but , IF im having some what of new gear that will only go for sale in upcoming 10 years , that means im hugely having the advantage over the others and therefore that means im cheating?! this is what u just said . a lil bit hilarious .. but sad

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Rayden was here wrote:
@ Fala and the rest Happy

cheating is not only when someone is using WH or Autoshoot etc.. Cheating is when someone is having some advantage over the others. .

sorry for interfeering , but , IF im having some what of new gear that will only go for sale in upcoming 10 years , that means im hugely having the advantage over the others and therefore that means im cheating?! this is what u just said . a lil bit hilarious .. but sad

genesis you not get a point of it. this was explained in past example about subdivisions or ref pass durring the match etc Tongue

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now really....how do you expect to play vs a guy, knowing that, that guy has the knowledge and power to cheat anytime? Laughing)
even if he is not cheating...he still gets, at least, a psichological advantage(small paranoia for the guy who plays against him).
just saying...mkay.

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i not change q3 configuration long time.. at one year. and kicked me until now? LOL?
it was a game http://www.excessiveplus.net/forums/thread/rfl-2012-skillz-2-0-twt#comment-396159
I was kicked in the pause before the second map. you have demo... look, I played with some cheat?
during this CW got kicked and players SKILLZ and players TWT. this is not the server logs?
pls fix your server RSQT!

rsqt server scans for active cheats and files associated with cheats wether active or not sever scanned for MD5Tool Mismatch: opengl32.dll and found in your game so server works fine as far as i can see. im still looking round for false positive for this file .and if i find will post it here.

>RSQT<CLAN TEAMSPEAK
173.199.64.246:9270
TS 3 Info
Default Channel
private

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now really....how do you expect to play vs a guy, knowing that, that guy has the knowledge and power to cheat anytime? Laughing)
even if he is not cheating...he still gets, at least, a psichological advantage(small paranoia for the guy who plays against him).
just saying...mkay.

reread, we can't cheat anytime, also everyone of us has been trusted to not cheat ever, that was one of the reason we all got into beta team.

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rayden, we can only spot doubleaccounts if there is a slight hint of such stuff, in this case, you were first, so you take the price.

Besides that since fps is rank mod its his job, not mine, duh.

And we also told you that if you wanna make the game more fair, pm me a proposal.

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