Cheater report discussion
nope mow I did post but made a misstake ..so I had to delet it.......
Liek a bad spirit I'm attracted by all the negative energy here.
Please rip yourselves apart, I'm pretty sure it's really worth it and your goal, the community really benefits from these ego battles.
Any way, never mind me and go ahead, I got my pop corn.
Whoa guys, chill. We all want the best but this is not the way to do it...Mow i have never seen you like this, but i will not make any assumptions on the background of your actions, but cmon this is not the cool-minded Mow we all know. I get your anger, and i agree with parts of your statement (especially that a glimpse of proof is required when reporting a cheater) but you just chose a bad way to state your case.
Reno, you are doing a good thing the wrong way. This can be solved very easily, just tell all your admins to make a short demo (even 20 seconds would suffice if the cheating is obvious) when they bust a cheater. It's not such a big hassle to make a demo and post it here.
I know there are some really plain obvious cheaters out there but still, a demo is required to close the door on a potential "benefit of the doubt" situation. Just imagine if one of these guys you or your admins banned without a proof comes here and claims he was innocent. What then? It's just going to be your/your admin's word against his, and even tho you/one of the admins have more credibility in this community, the benefit of the doubt would still apply in the favor of the complainer. And we do want to avoid that, don't we?
ps. Mow and Reno, I have much respect for both of you and it's a shame to see you take out the knives. Cmon, shake hands and make this a bygone.
Amen
@trance
i am just as people claim how i am. now i am as they claim, and they can c the difference.
and i didnt saw any knives anywhere. i said it is his thing. but he cant follow the one rules, while he ignore others.
Reno has now an "example-function". Whether he likes it or not. For me the case is finished in order of any explanations from my side. Maybe just a few pm's are to do, and "bygone"
(it is not like that, that i tread reno now different as before, he still gets all from me what he need to, for community. if i would fight "for example" against everyone i have personal probs with, i wouldnt finish in life, for example skullhead, i really dont come along with his attidude, but i let him simply be, we just dont talk more then necassary with each other, but i dont thread him with any disadvantages for him, and the same i will do with reno, i just needed to clear this point, since it is him, who has now the main-responsibility, in order of that, he has a example-function, if he likes it or not)
Report cheaters here!
Before you make a post in this thread, make sure you have one of the following:
1. A demo with the cheater shown in action
2. A screenshot showing him being kicked by Punkbuster
3. Bans.txt excerpt with the bad guys details
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Anyhow, sorry next time I won't post without a demo or pb screenshot.
cheers
[/]However obvious it may be for you, you still need proof.
Please quote the full post of mad, and not that just what u like. thx.
so perhaps the rules needs to be a bit tuned ... bans.txt is no proof so i would say that the bans.txt part of "one of 3 things to have" should be deleted
C'mon Mow, Camel does the same thing as Reno for a long while now, yet you never budged. It's all about trust, if you do not trust the person which supplies the info, you don't have to use it. I trust Reno and wouldn't EVER think he is trying to frame someone.
Camel is not arguing in other threads about new rules. My point is mainly, smo can not chose the rules he wanna follow and which he wanna ignore. Or why u think i pick reno as example? Do u think i have something against him? na, i have a point.
This may look like hairsplittings, but it are the smalls things too, which influence "under the line" the community. Things which noone want to c.
I trust reno 2, but u cant speak about rules, while ignoring other rules, not with that responsibility what reno have.
Rules are for reno important, otherwise he would not engage hisself for official war servers. But following some rules he like, and ignore other rules he doesnt like, is paradox, and not ok for a person with his responsibility, to repeat my self for the x-th time.
The only real proof is a screenie of a pb catching the cheating bum. All the rest are mini proofs which are sometimes open to interpretation, however, most if not all people who are able to give the bans.txt excerpt we can all trust just enough for them to not bother with giving a demo every single time.
C'mon Mow, Camel does the same thing as Reno for a long while now, yet you never budged. It's all about trust, if you do not trust the person which supplies the info, you don't have to use it. I trust Reno and wouldn't EVER think he is trying to frame someone.