Cheater report discussion
lol, i prolly must of never noticed...i don't play enough quake anyway D:
Judging from his sens and movement I doubt he could keep up with the other guys in Dvinsk in the evol CW 'clean'...but that's all speculation I guess.
P.S. nice video camel... = /
The Camels Clan wrote:
As for detection Han, its sad that pb first kick player for non active pb behind client side than ban for a cheat first.is there any way to do it other way round?
as for accurun, i gonna do some research.
I think not, pb cant detect any cheat if player have disabled pb client on his side.
Skull Accuses Fairy.
I scored 66 to your 100 in a match prior. You also had aproximately 40 seconds less time in game than me. Which I find appalling for you to be complaining about. I play for fun, I have a good attitude, I dont play to win, I just shoot.
On a further note, Everyone, watch how the other players played in that demo, they were hardly moving, at least compared to playing plus.cfg, I am used to trying to catch people in slides constantly, so I found this fairly slow. But even for that, it was slow by InstaUnlagged Mod's standards as I've shown this demo to the RA community. The players might not have been newbs by your euro standards, but they were not hitting me very often, and I was able to just take my time like I do when practising on gauntlet bots. Once your in rythem the speed builds up right? Anyways, This is really sad that I have to try to defend myself here, but there isnt really huge huge proof from my point of view, I could be completely wrong. But I dont want to fight about it, I just play for fun, its a small community, I hardly play Euro Servers to begin with due to the overly competitive edge alot of people seem to have. In North America I get my ass handed to me all the time, and I dont care, its all for fun.
I hope you had fun kicking my ass, And seeing as that wasnt enough for you, I hope I get banned from the euro servers just to make you happy, I dont really play them anyways. As for a Global ban, that would be pretty sad, just killing to mod more by removing innocent players while the real killers who cry if they lose, continue to play.
Thats all I've got for you, Email me at Im not hostile, and I dont really care if you try to hack me or somthing stupid like that, I'd just love to talk to you though in realtime.
The players might not have been newbs by your euro standards, but they were not hitting me very often, and I was able to just take my time like I do when practising on gauntlet bots. Once your in rythem the speed builds up right?
just laughing my ass of to that one.
It's true that when people like us noobs change...they start throwing the "bs" factor at you. I remember it as if it was yesterday, well not really, but Kee and Dakini both accused me of using scripts and shit like that...fuck I was 13-14 when they did, i found this mod on accident yet I was being accused of using scripts (and at the time I didn't even know what the fuck a script even was :oops:). So until real hard proff or something...ima have to side with my bud.
wondering where joeyb's post went, anyways, to clear some things up:
it isnt my job to keep this community clean of cheaters, i dont get payed for it, the community didnt ask me for it.
its the communitys job.
i as individuum can just show the community what i think isnt clean and the community needs to held itself clean.
also it should be handy if u guys learn spotting cheaters before i get inactive or something.
and i think, people like vextor are on the best way to just gain expirience on that area
Now here is my feedback with the 'evidence'. Skull, you need to control your ego, it's eating your asshole inside out again. You accuse ANYONE of cheating if they get within 50 of your kills. You are ridiculous. I do not even want to be ranked by you because of your poor judgment. By your standards I, MYSELF am a cheater because of my 'inconsistency'. Oh wait.. you have called me a cheater on few occasions. Ban me guys!!!
The demo posted is not enough to show if he is cheating. I do see a few sketchy shots however Fairy has a ping of 200. Also his opponents move like gauntlets and have HORRIBLE aim. Fairy is able to play calmly and controlled. When you combine those two factors every shot in that video is completely possible. There was nothing out of the ordinary. Granted, some shots were sketchy but the ping gives you the benefit of the doubt. I am sure fairy would be willing to post a demo sometime soon to prove his case.
Now in regards to the game you played with him, same circumstances. (yet there was no demo posted of it) You had 2 free targets to kill, so did he. You two also had each other to kill because you two were occupied with the two 'less skilled' players. I would LOVE to see the demo from this game from ANY player in ANY POV because it would show a lot more than the previous demo.
Until more and 'better' proof is shown i see your accusation as erroneous and personal. I was not the one who gave Fairy the tag and when Vextor told me he was checking him out as a possible member i shit myself in disappointment however I told vex to use his best judgment, I believe he has. I played with Fairy for several weeks when I was able to checking him out constantly under aliases, different CD key, etc and I only saw change. I know who fairy is, I was one of the RCON holders who would constantly kick and ban him, I would even unban him to have some competition however, he does not do that anymore.
I do not ignore the fact that some people still go around accusing him of cheats however i believe they are just being bad sports or can't accept change. Your evidence has not convinced me, his performance was do-able by almost ANY player. Until solid proof is shown I simply can't take any action except to stick by fairy. I do not think any of my players would do me or vex wrong. I will be home this weekend, perhaps I will be in-game to check things out. I will be watching, as I have been doing to make sure the PHC family that I have associated with for 5 years is not soiled.
PS. If there is more 'proof' or 'funky' matches that should not have gone how they did with fairy being the victor feel free to bring them up. It seems people don't like sharing information until it is too late.
A big post of nothing joeyb, ur forgetting a lot of things (no, not details, obvious things) there.
and no, i didnt accuse u of cheating yet, there is a clear difference of posting a demo saying someone is definitly hacking and just being oddly fragged from time to time when u fight someone.
neither do i accuse people who are better or near me of hacking, see torzelan, i was sure he wasnt hacking on first day.
hf playing with ur cheater, i for myself, wont deal with this case.
Well, I figure less is more, so heres my bit. I'm not gunna bother posting a demo to "back myself up" or whatever. The people I play with know who I am, and they can easily track me anywhere as we've seen. I have nothing to hide. I will admit, playing in that server did feel a bit like I loaded up single player went addbot gauntlet 1... and then addbot xaero 100, I think you know who that is skull. I hope that doesnt insult you, I consider a level 4 xaero hard for me.
Thanks impulse and joey for your support <3 you guys.
Skull scares me, he plays too rough.