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Hello everybody..

As some of u saw, we have now a new clan 20 days old, wich u know the most members, the most come from wasp.. the clan was made in order that the players who left wasp stay together
For challenging us post here or in http://oscclan.phpnet.us/ until we get a forum space in the e+!
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Peace,

Mouzer, OSC.

I don't like to be a product of my environment, I like my environment to be a product of me.

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i dont wanna offend you but WTF?!

you had wasp and you all left wasp and now the same guys formed another clan.. THE SAME GUYS.. i mean, i respect your decision that you maybe wanted your own clan or somehting.. frankly i have no idea why, cause we have too many clans already. .. all of you could have just stayed in wasp and take new players.
instead, youll do the same crap just under another name..

Gl with recruiting.


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OT of curiosity:
How we can have "too many Clans"?

@your Question "why"
Sometimes smo needs new colours on the wall, and sometimes smo must move to a new appartment.

GL OGC

(ups OSC)

RENA * BBSQUAD
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I wish you good luck, a lot fun and friendships. Winking
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A member named Madmaster sent me an email of a blackmailing nature saying if I did not hand over the ownership rights to WASP, he would leave and ensure many others left as well. Mouzer was the leader at the time.

Ever since his departure, he has been going around saying that WASP has changed names, which it has not. A domino effect in the working, I say. a few friends leave, the rest follow.

Let me kindly remind you Madmaster of OSC, in Excessive Plus we have a fair play policy.
Soliciting Clan Players is and will NOT be tolerated.
One might say "But they left on their own free will" -> Unfortunately for them, due to false pretences.

Madmaster, I still have the ownership rights over the tag WASP & WASP2. It's a pitty that you did not speak up wishing for a more management orientated role. I would have given it to you knowing your ability to uphold a sense of mateship within the clan.

Let this be a case study / example for everyone. Be aware of clan snatchers and egotistic fools on a road of attempt to self fulfilment by clan title. By sitting back and observing the recent history, It appears Madmaster wanted more authority & control within the clan which he did not. If he had said something to Mouzer, then perhaps this escalated situation would have never arised.

If anyone, anyone at all hears something of a similar nature whether it be on the servers, MSN, IRC etc. I encourage you to contact me as soon as possible such that we can get to the bottom of this.

So what's installed for the future?
As many of you know, I am the website Administrator for Excessive Plus, hence my roles within a clan are limited. When there is a problem, I will step in.
Killer has been appointed as the new clan leader and the recruitment drive is underway once again. WASP has been around for many years, and it's not going to die anytime soon.

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Hello..

As u see wasp need some one who give it some Energie, i wont give more energie for a clan that doesnt belong to me or a friend of me!
So here is The deal, u let wasp for me and mouzer or u come, organize and play in it and do what u have to do if the clan belong to you.
If u give us the clan definetly, u can stay as a member, its no problem, otherwise i will leave the clan and a lot of players (my friends) will do the same too.
I tought about that already, so discution wont bring nothing.. just tell me if u accept the deal or not, u have one day to think, peace!

MadMaster

I needn't bother getting into chat logs. Email speaks for itself.

Cheers,

term

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lol what a bs... Thinking

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i wont give more energie for a clan that doesnt belong to me or a friend of me

a clan belongs to noone but to the members in it :!:
and a member not wanting to invest energy into a clan just because he doesnt have a title like "leader" or whatever, makes him not worth the clan!

So I really wish you that all osc members who are not called a leader wont invest any energy into your clan Winking

I hope WASP will survive this sneaky attack. Its always been a cool clan.

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Let me kindly remind you Madmaster of OSC, in Excessive Plus we have a fair play policy.
Soliciting Clan Players is and will NOT be tolerated.

btw. term do I read correctly out of your post that you are planing some kind of punishment/revenge on madmaster or even whole osc?

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Yes, one might have simply accepted the whole thing. They would only have had to say simply: "Hi, we leave Wasp to do our own thing, we do not not enjoy our stay in Wasp anymore."

But that verges on blackmail. The pistol set on the breast.

Certainly I do not have any insight what all happened in Wasp. But Wasp has not earned such an exploitation.

OSC·MADMASTER
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Greetz!

For the questions why we made another clan?

For my reason just read the wasp public, and the most have the some reason so, @secret : if the clan belong to the leader or to the members thats depends of the leader he can give u the feeling if the clan belong to u as a member or not, and in wasp i didnt have this feeling as the most of us, coz after all what we gave to the clan and plans we had, term just makes decisions without asking nobody and stuff like that.. the most wondered and had the idee that we make another where we make our own decisions , and that what we did, the most had plans to left(some did already example pharax gone to hyper , shell gone to *swe*), but thanks osc the most stayed now together and i was really my self surprised that to many other members wanted to join us and i even told to some the clan is full now in order that they stay in wasp and we have tryoutsrequests everyday at the moment but we dont get more players coz we are FULL!!!

Term sorry but u are dreaming and that nobody wanna stay for u make u angryblind and thats sad that u cant handle the situation in a civilisation way and admet that people didnt like your art and wanted to have theier own clan, i think its a very easy history and doesnt need to be a theater, its the right of everybody to choose where he wanna play, we are free , and u cant make us play in your wasp just because you are admin!

u really think we steel players from wasp ? cant be coz
1. its very easy u just have to ask them by your self!
2.the most players in OSC are a very old and honroable players in e+ they will never leave a clan without a reason just because someone told them that
3.i dont have bombes to terrorise people to join my clan and i swear i cant hypnotize and make people do what i wanna do, and even if, i will use that to get rich of money and girls and not to make some people join a clan in virtually world Laughing
4.as i said we are now full, and we have good players, mouzer , oxide , den , madmaster , abkani , bazz , ozzy , lakitu and 6 others nice players , even of that, yetserday we had another new member from blacklist of wasp, so u think after all potenziel we have, i spent my life to trying to soliciting a player from a subclan ? ^^ fact is.. he wanted bad to join us even everything and we had to accept him even everything because we were like a family, and now we have our own clan where we can make by our self our own decision and our rulez!
5.we cant steel players from wasp because we were wasp!

btw. i still have the mail when u told me indirectly u will do all what u can for osc as admin in e+ but if wasp players join it then it can be dangerous i m just waiting of easy+ to be active and show him the log Winking

P.S. its not OGC its O.S.C , Oldschool Suicide Commando!

Peace!

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Your profound words of wisdom are well recognised for starters.

My homework was done, and was told by numerous players that you where indeed soliciting. "Join OSC, we are WASP but changed names". Hell, one player even sent me a chatlog with you in MSN saying these words. Another caught you on a server saying similar things.

Second of all, Mouzer was the leader of WASP. Decisions where not made without consultation between Mouzer & myself. You had nothing to do with the decision making process.

Indeed it is true. And refer back to my email if you must. As the Administrator of this site it is my duty to facilitate clan activity. Excersising of Administration rights will not be done in clan affairs, as it is morally & ethically incorrect.

This is a public justification Madmaster. People wanted answers. It is not an attempt to have a go at you in the eye of the public. Let the leaders and members of each individual clan see this and consider how they will conduct clan activity around your clan.

WASP have open doors. With this newly acquired knowledge, any members who have switched are able to come back.

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thats sad that u cant handle the situation in a civilisation way.

Please, enlighten me on a more civilised way of overcoming such an ordeal. A man of your wisdom will surely be able to fill in the detail.

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Term sorry but u are dreaming and that nobody wanna stay for u make u angryblind and thats sad that u cant handle the situation in a civilisation way and admet that people didnt like your art and wanted to have theier own clan, i think its a very easy history and doesnt need to be a theater, is the right to everybody to choice where he wanna play, we are free , and u cant make us play in your wasp just because you are admin!

I take due note of this block of text. Every line has a personal negative statement at heart. You come across as this "aerie fairy", similar to moses saying "let my people go" in your above paragraph, but when I see this; a mere projection. You aren't singing Kum-Bah-Yah, Madmaster. In the end you solicited members under false pretences.

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However,

like everyone knows, i am tyred since weeks, and doing atm my dicissions to fast Happy

I guess this arose to a case between term and OSC, and since it seems to be serios to both, none can say what is truth or not.

I just wanna remind on mouzer, oldschool e+member. I dont think he would leave wasp if there would be no reason, further i guess from mouzers side for example, there were trys to clear things up, but it seems without any success.

Now i am away from this thread, and just watching as neutral person.

GL both clans.

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Heh. Well, this whole situation is none of my business, really, but if anyone is interested how this looks to the neutral bystander - Madmaster, you wanted full control of the clan. Thru Mouzer or not. You wanted Term, who is the founder and leader of wasp, to step down, because he did not play an active role in the clan no more. (Would look neat, an aussie player trying to outscore peeps on euro servers in cw's. Hahahahaha! Tongue) Whatever rocks your boat, dude, full leadership or otherwise.

However, threatening Term with "either that or me and my friends are leaving" is fucking sad, man. That's where you show you're an asshole, and a backstabbing asshole at that. How can you steal players from wasp? Just like you did. By saying "hey, since Term dosen't want to give his clan away to a relative newb like myself, let's go and create a clan ourselves, it will be cool, it'll be just like WASP, only with a different tag."

Can't really blame Term for blowing (well, semi-blowing, i must say he takes it relatively well, so a thumb up for that) his top. To sum it up, you (and Mouzer?) played a dirty hand, Madmaster, and i personally find it very, very uncool.

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