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Now ofc i don't like e5r because it is abused by scripts and rail is used to often , But i will play it. So why can this not be the same for other people.

I agree here as e5 and e5r are different and the rail bit is a pointless niche on the excessive side and it "spoils" the "purity" (note the sarcastic quotation marks representing how both e5 and e5r would look like to an outside player coming from CPMA or vq3 or 3wave or even QL... but regardless of that irrelevant point, the rail tends to fuck with the e5 harmony and is a pointless weapon there) and if someone should want an e5r cup, they should go make an e5r cup, but there are enough clans here to promise a good spectacle without the clans which are e5r only.

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If e5r is included then it will cause more flaming. As im sure e5r clans will enter and try and force e5 clans to use the e5r config (Im very sure this will happen) . So simply to stop this we will not include e5r.

:thumbright: on point.

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extreme we all know you are an e5r clan and may i add a very good one

now THIS is the hypothetical breaking line of your large post, which was very good up before that particular line. Now i see it all going wrong.

Let's check out the rest of what you wrote to find out how else it could go wrong

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Thirdly for any clan/team who comes here and says "Can we make it so it is on edawn instead of 1.04" i don't see the point.

Now this is where you don't HAVE to see the point considering the words "IF" and "PREFER" and "OPTIONAL" ... i.e. IF you would PREFER EDAWN mod and the other clan PREFERs it too then it should be OPTIONAL to allow those 2 clans to play under that mod.

Im not gonna go on a massive Edawn Vs E+ tantrum here cos i choose to stay neuteral in that shit and only mention my opinion on this. Both 1.04 and edawn are on beta stages, and from what i've seen on both, there are improvements and less bugs on Edawn (taking into account the current versions) that make me more comfortable to play on Edawn. If another clan tries it and in their own opinion it is better than 1.04 than they should be able to play on whatever they want. If a clan doesn't find it much better or is not fussed to switch then it should be no problem too. Even if they havent even played Edawn... cos everyone is entitled to OPINIONS

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Thats as bad as e5r clans wanting us to use there config. We stated 1.04 and we will stick with it and not go to edawn.

How is this just as bad considering it will STILL be played on the same config (i.e. e5) and will be pretty much similar except with certain bugs fixed? if both mods are very similar then why bother discriminating. No-one is forcing you to go anywhere or to switch to anything.

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After the cup if you wish to make a cup on the edawn mod then be my guest and im sure the clans/teams here would be more than happy to test it out, But not in this cup thank you.

Yep this quote pretty much fillls me with confidence that all of EVIL clan for example would install Edawn and march on a server in unison with some sort of National Anthem playing in the background the second that the Bloodbath cup is over.

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I also don't want any other clan then trying to say well "why not " just accept it will be 1.04 or you can leave the cup im not really bothered

Now this bit i have a LARGE problem with. And it goes back to you saying at the start of your post "As a co-admin". Well can you define your duties as a co-admin?

Did you actually create a concept of a TDM cup all by yourself? There have been a few in e+ the past few years, ive played in some even before EVIL were an active clan here.

Did you create a list of players or defined a list of rules for the cup? Seems KB did all that.

Ah well ok... but you had previous experience in running a cup, right? Well the Bananas cup seems mostly organised by Secret too, the same way but at least you DID keep an up-to date players list, game results and what maps should be played and in what round? Oh seems Unu did all that hard work (may i add without ego-tripping with stuff like "IM CUP CO-ADMIN!!! I RUN THESE STREETS!!!!" ).

So let's cut it down to the final point and mention HOW you actually contributed to the Bananas II cup:

1) Helped decide on cup layout which (GASP) turned Bananas 2 into a fucking disaster and (GASP GASP) ended up with EVIL finishing in a cushty third place and getting a shiny bronze medal for it. Without playing pGv or KS. And getting completely assraped by the clans placed in the top 2.
2) Wrote a few semi-coherent posts with bad punctuation on the Bananas II topic.

Didn't trickz and Seebz have an idea of an e5 tdm cup? Are they considered co-admins too? Can ANYONE just claim to say "THIS WAS MY IDEA OLOLOLOLOLO" and then co-admin this cup (by co-admining i mean writing a bunch of Vicky Pollard-esque ego trippy lines such as "YE BUT NO BUT YE BUT NO BUT EDAWN LOL NO PLAY EDAWN INNIT BUT NO BUT YET BRUV INNIT GO PLAY EDAWN THIS MY CUP I CO-ADMIN INNIT GTFO EDAWN")

I have to say, i would be a lot more comfotable even with GasoL co-adminning this cup. And that's a strong saying considering his "Mr. SEMI FINAL WO COS I HATE TVL" reputation and how much the entire community adores and trusts him Or killer for co-admin OLOLOL GO MUSTAPH <3

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Im not targeting anyone it is just what i have seen.

Im not targeting anyone either, im just expressing ideas, it's just what ive seen. :roll:

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Not use our own cup as a spin off to get what u want

I'm not using anything to not get anything. It's still an e5 cup regardless of the mod it's played on. in fact the game will be EXACTLY the same on either mod. Cos it depends on player skill, and most differences will be minimal and un-noticable. If KB says it's allright to play if 2 clans agree, i say it's allright for my clan to play on Edawn and if any clan we should play would agree to play this e5 game on edawn then i suppose it's allright, but im struggling on where exactly YOU fit into this picture, Mr Co-Admin

Im not to bothered about your post on the edawn situation that is fair enough. But you have got alot of stuff wrong with the 'co admin' situation first off.

Banna cup 2 was dead before i got all the clans togeather (im not sure you realised) But now i will correct you . First off when i first visited the forum i noticed that bc1 was a big success and then noticed half way down the page there had actually been an attempt to create bc2. Although bc2 went off the rails when the whole ranked unranked situation came into play. Not long after that happened the cup topic went dead. So i then added kb on msn and discussed the possibility of actually making the cup happen. When i spoke to kb he said to me if you can get the clans then i will carry on bc2.

So what i then did was went to ED's server i created the evil ctf clan and got all the clans/teams involved. Ofc i didnt realised about X altho i asked alot of people who was involved with x if they would join. I got praise of a certain member of ed saying i made cb2 happen (so it is not just my opinion ) Anyway i made alot of efforts going round to all the clans/team and bugging them major as some might remember to enter. I hope people could back me up on that. So no i did not put evil in a 'cushty' position as you said it. I had no involvment in the fixture listings .I also don't know how you could think i made it a 'disaster' but then again what happened between me and ed happened i wouldn't think that spoilt the whole cup although others may feel different ofc. Obviously you turned it personal against me so fair enough this is no longer a discussion about the cup as much it is about me. VS ED yep we did get beat my the better clan. Vs pol the same but how could you say scores like 5-3 3-2 6-2 are assraped results? This i think you then have something against evil then. First off with your small brain if you noticed before e+ evil was around. Back on 1.16 1.30 .1.32 (evil was late to switch to e+)

Again you can ask kb but i came up with the cup idea. I know im not experienced with rules as i only started e+ last august so i did not mind kb sorting rules maps ect as i would probly get flamed at for making mistakes. How you can say i have done nothing is purly ridiculous. Back to bc2 i reffed about 6 games aswell

Anway this is ofc a personal attack on me so i will forget it but know your knowledge before considering i have done nothing in these last 2 cups.

Lastly when did i say i owned these streets it was kb who called me co-admin not the other way around. I made the idea to kb and told him of what i had planned i never realised he was going to involve in the cup. Same with bc2 i said i would get the team togeather i never said wanted to be co-admin kb just said i was. So before you think im going power tripping learn the facts

Nice to see you can't say anything else ofc you didn't realise what i actually did and now you shut up about it. Right so i said co-admin because i was regarded as a co-admin i never meant it as 'listen to me im higher that you lot' ofc i didnt you may think i did

Aha nice to see your correcting me. I fought you said it was not personal? Anyway now you know i did more in the cups than you think. Shady ak whatever when you create a cup or you do something then i will give you respect :thumbleft:

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Aha nice to see your correcting me. I fought you said it was not personal? Anyway now you know i did more in the cups than you think. Shady ak whatever when you create a cup or you do something then i will give you respect :thumbleft:

It wasnt personal, i really DID struggle to read it cos it was all entangled and shit... and commas and correct punctuation really DOES matter, as the context can change. For example, compare:

And im still sorta new in this e5 side, i organised the 2008 summer PLUS nations cup for example . And a nice clan in PLUS which im happy with. Also now one in e5.