exel, rappu and pawel debate

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"WAX" I have said it many times before, and I’m gonna say it again. I personally give zero tolerance to anyone busted for cheating and always will, I don’t care about any circumstances. I also have a personal policy of never ever trusting a busted cheater.

if you play its your responsibility.

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agree with you. :!: But I am for equality in the first place. Happy Some people caughted with set in their cfg. And they play now in E+. Happy So, if they play and do not have any consequences why Pawel will be only one who suffer ? Happy That is the my point. If you watch Clan Rank topics, I am only one wich call |DEVA|.Panic a cheater. Happy
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it will be a good idea from now to force players to use their clan tag ALWAYS or their name not any f..king fake nick . or the name and after @ warmup ,sens, mp3 or other stuff ..

Here is best idea on this topic.. How to track and watch some1 who always change nicks?

I love when cheaters defend himselfs.. Its like Spanish serial..

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it's OFF topic like necro said.
We already talked about it on this forum and it's not possible. Back to cheaters report Happy

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"XbODz"it's OFF topic like necro said.
We already talked about it on this forum and it's not possible. Back to cheaters report Happy

whats not possible ?

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in my experience a cheat is also a liar.

and as for changing nicks - who cares?? thats why admin have \rcon whois..

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Let me just say that if I ever spot anyone who has been busted for cheating on any server I have RCON access to, they will be banned on sight. And I expect the same of any other legit admins. Let the cheaters hang out at Area 51 or wherever. The servers supported by the good clans & players should be united and not tolerate any of this nonsense. If you had the sa4_pingpredict cvar, then there is absolutely no excuse. It means that you definitely have or had the ShinAkuma bot loaded at one time in the past and you cannot be trusted.

If you really had it in there by 'accident', it's a trivial matter to change IPs, nicks, and GUIDs and come back clean anyway.

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Thats pure crap - both of them (pawel and panic) should be banned at sight and forgotten. panic story is like a screenplay of snatch - to many strange coincidence O.o.

When it comes to pawel - he doesn't even have -> ANY <- explenation, how did that cvar came into his cfg. O.o. wtf? ban them, end of story

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I totally agree. Ban them both. I won't play with them anyway. But when i came here people said "we give only one chance to cheaters". I thought "great". But time has obviously changed. Sad.

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Imagine one thing, u download q3 from web, there is already q3config in, from somebody, but u have no idea what a config is and so on.

u just install the game, discover a funny mod, than u play on different servers, u nver played a pb or pure server, just because u was not able to join them, but u had no idea why, but u want to play. So u play on different servers without any pb or pure, and u get better and better, and a clan beginns to interest for you.

you are quiet happy, think, cool, i will join a clan (but u have still no idea that u have strange cvars in ur config, because u dont even know what is a cvar nor a config).

So, u have ur first cw or whatever and u r forced to play on a pb/pure server, but u cant join, someone in ur clan gives u a cd-key and tells u why u cant join pure. So u look for it, that u can join pure servers (how fast u can depends on interest of player and his intelligence to use google correctly).

Than u play ur cw, and after 5 min u get kicked because of a "Cheat-Cvar", but u never have cheated and think, wtf.

Than u find a post of u in forum (because clanm8s tell u about it), but instead of getting help, u get punished (even u still havent cheated).

So, imo, if u get busted by just an cvar, this is no proof, it just shows that u have something in ur config, and md5tool shows such cvars of players.

Pb have 2 cheatlogs.
1st log is for defenitly used cheats
2 nd log is md5tool log, where are real proofs in (like for example the message ogc.dll), and just suspicions like this cvar, or this cvar.

In my personall system, i handle md5 like that, 1 catch = ultimate warning, 2nd catch = ultimate ban.

U still have to know, that these are just normal humans, some with more brain, some with less brain. But just imagine, u would have downloaded q3 somewhere, and u get catched for a cvar, and u even have no idea about what it is, or how simple u can clear the problems, how would u feel to get called cheater and banned from all servers.

so, if we begin to punish supicios people we have also to punish the clans who took them and havent proofed the person same way as the person, means dont allow them to play cws ranked or something.

Cool, or?

btw, a HARDWARE BAN is unmisleading, that means 100 percent, that with this pc was cheated for sure!

and if u want, we can make pb much more secure as it is now, we can set guidrelax to 0! and dotn allow extended characters. so, we have just players with legal version of q3 and mustnt be afraid, that people abuse extended characters for hacks and cheats Happy

greetz

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Now where did i put that image with the three darts in the center of the target? Bored to search. Just imagine i put it here concerning mow's post.