allright, this has to be done people. ill post the little chat that just hapened on irc here, important stuff will be bolded so you can quickly browse, or if you wanna entertain yourself, read slowly.

its a log copy of a little chat in #drt_clan

h4x0r_dragon is me
+Mc|Basstard is DA|l33t

red text are my comments on the situation, you can skip them

(23:08:56) (@h4x0r_dragon) ok im here now
(23:08:58) (+Mc|Basstard) pure = laggy game
(23:09:02) (+Mc|Basstard) pb = laggy game
(23:09:07) (+Mc|Basstard) everytime it scans
(23:09:08) (+Mc|Basstard) it lags

this is his reply to faith about pb and pure

(23:09:14) (@h4x0r_dragon) i didnt call you cheaters, you called yourselves cheaters, check my post
(23:09:14) (@drt`faith) pure isnt scaning...
(23:09:22) (@h4x0r_dragon) pure doesnt lag at all
(23:09:28) (+Mc|Basstard) faith
(23:09:30) (+Mc|Basstard) could u pls
(23:09:34) (+Mc|Basstard) be quiet now
(23:09:41) (+Mc|Basstard) cause i wanna talk with foksie
(23:09:43) (+Mc|Basstard)
(23:09:49) (+Mc|Basstard) so
(23:09:54) (@h4x0r_dragon) sec, closing q3

here the chat starts

(23:09:57) (+Mc|Basstard) u dont call us cheaters ye ?
(23:10:02) (@h4x0r_dragon) nope
(23:10:06) (+Mc|Basstard) k
(23:10:16) (@h4x0r_dragon) you called your own clan cheaters

repeating the forum talk

(23:10:16) (+Mc|Basstard) but u call all who hate pb and pure cheaters ?
(23:10:33) (+Mc|Basstard) or not ?
(23:10:54) (@h4x0r_dragon) no, i call those who are afraid to play cws on pure and pb cheaters
(23:11:07) (@h4x0r_dragon) cause theres is not a single reason as to not play like that, short of cheating
(23:11:07) (+Mc|Basstard) aha
(23:11:09) (+Mc|Basstard) afraid
(23:11:11) (+Mc|Basstard) u see
(23:11:18) (+Mc|Basstard) i never ever said we are afraid
(23:11:27) (+Mc|Basstard) i say only i dont turn it on on my server
(23:11:33) (+Mc|Basstard) so we moved too 2sweet
(23:11:33) (@h4x0r_dragon) so why do you claim i call you cheaters?
(23:11:38) (+Mc|Basstard) where pb and pure is on
(23:11:45) (+Mc|Basstard) and why we are afraid then ?
(23:11:53) (@h4x0r_dragon) i didnt say YOU are afraid
(23:11:58) (+Mc|Basstard) Lol
(23:12:00) (@h4x0r_dragon) you = da
(23:12:04) (+Mc|Basstard) but u call us cheaters

he just doesnt get it... reading, thinking, posting...

(23:12:06) (@h4x0r_dragon) no i dont
(23:12:18) (+Mc|Basstard) «22:54:52» {+Mc|Basstard} so you area a cheatter? only reason why somebody wouldnt want pure is cause he cheats. i cant think of any other reason. <- thats indirect
(23:12:19) (@h4x0r_dragon) i call those who are afraid to play under pb and pure cheaters
(23:12:20) (+Mc|Basstard) «22:54:54» {+Mc|Basstard} l33t wrote:
(23:12:22) (+Mc|Basstard) «22:54:56» {+Mc|Basstard} nobody who we played before wants pb or pure
(23:12:25) (+Mc|Basstard) «22:54:58» {+Mc|Basstard} probably cause they cheat too. <- thats direct
(23:12:26) (+Mc|Basstard) «22:55:00» {+Mc|Basstard} l33t wrote:
(23:12:28) (+Mc|Basstard) «22:55:02» {+Mc|Basstard} surely dont make pure on cause it sux and makes game worse
(23:12:30) (+Mc|Basstard) «22:55:04» {+Mc|Basstard} no it doesnt. unless you cheat. <- indirect
(23:12:41) (+Mc|Basstard) whats about this ?
(23:12:44) (@h4x0r_dragon) all of my statements are true
(23:12:52) (@h4x0r_dragon) read them again and think

he didnt, of course

(23:12:56) (+Mc|Basstard) lol
(23:13:24) (+Mc|Basstard) drt`faith better make /whois u see same sometimes
(23:13:44) (+Mc|Basstard) mhh
(23:13:54) (+Mc|Basstard) ok its too colorized for me
(23:14:01) (@h4x0r_dragon) ?
(23:14:06) (+Mc|Basstard) ye man
(23:14:11) (@h4x0r_dragon) colorized?
(23:14:14) (+Mc|Basstard) yes
(23:14:17) (@h4x0r_dragon) wtf?
(23:14:21) (+Mc|Basstard) ...
(23:14:37) (@h4x0r_dragon) what colors, where?
(23:14:39) (+Mc|Basstard) when u see many colors and there are too much u got mad and ...
(23:14:43) (+Mc|Basstard) lol
(23:14:43) (+Mc|Basstard) ...

i realy dont get this part, can anyone help me with this?

(23:16:21) (+Mc|Basstard) the thing is that u say i should think about ur post, but u must post your mind otherwise cause there is nothing how u mean it, its a total offence post where we + all friend clans called cheaters and all understand like that exept ur friends who know that u are ok, but we/me didnt know so better u think next time before posting

again hes going to the same arguments without realising the bolded stuff above

(23:16:27) (+Mc|Basstard) and read my post better
(23:16:35) (+Mc|Basstard) cause i never said we are afraid
(23:16:47) (+Mc|Basstard) we just hate the nonetrust and the lag
(23:17:06) (+Mc|Basstard) nonetrust = trust which doesnt exist
(23:17:08) (@h4x0r_dragon) excusse me but i never called you cheaters
(23:17:33) (@h4x0r_dragon) i just was pointing out the fact that pure + pb is the only way to play cws, rest is just plain dumb

no point in playing without, is it?

(23:17:39) (+Mc|Basstard) ye then its ok for me but all of my m8ts and many other ppl thought same like me when they read
(23:17:46) (+Mc|Basstard) lol
(23:17:48) (+Mc|Basstard) no man
(23:17:53) (@h4x0r_dragon) well most of people didnt, except you
(23:17:54) (+Mc|Basstard) then u are like a machine
(23:17:57) (+Mc|Basstard) no humanlike
(23:18:03) (@h4x0r_dragon) no
(23:18:13) (@h4x0r_dragon) you have to realise its not that we dont trust clans
(23:18:14) (+Mc|Basstard) i think trust is one of the best things .. and importantst
(23:18:30) (@h4x0r_dragon) its because we are so damn good, that if we win we always get called cheaters

ok im overstating, and flaming him here a bit, but the point is good, look below next bold

(23:18:35) (+Mc|Basstard) i trust every clan i play cw against
(23:18:45) (+Mc|Basstard) otherwise i wouldnt trust i dont play any cw or smth...
(23:18:57) (+Mc|Basstard) cause cheat is with our without pb and pure possible

and can be detected sooner or later with good eyes, but thats not the point here

(23:19:03) (@h4x0r_dragon) if you didnt play ko on pure and pb you would have called them cheaters... but cause you did you just called them lamers, noobs, campers

this is the main reason to play on pb and pure. but of course, he doesnt get it... read on

(23:19:19) (+Mc|Basstard) i can write u a wallhack in 2 hours which does easy come through pure + pb
(23:19:23) (+Mc|Basstard) np

wow youre sooo 1337, be my wife please.
he cant reason so he tries to look cool and serious, he should probably take psychology classes first...

(23:19:24) (@h4x0r_dragon) so what?
(23:19:26) (+Mc|Basstard) and u know that
(23:19:40) (@h4x0r_dragon) you would still loose, thats not the point
(23:19:47) (+Mc|Basstard) loose ?
(23:19:48) (+Mc|Basstard) lol

yep im flaming him again... hes so fkin annoying i have to went it out a bit

(23:20:40) (+Mc|Basstard) easiest opinion: using ogc and writing variables otherway so that it takes something like a bind or a weponchange too aktivate and the variable when its on u can change same way

he doesnt know what hes talking about...

(23:20:42) (+Mc|Basstard) lol
(23:20:49) (+Mc|Basstard) u dont know much about me
(23:20:58) (+Mc|Basstard) and the cheater world

nice words... n1

(23:21:01) (@h4x0r_dragon) dude you said everything i need to know
(23:21:03) (+Mc|Basstard) i have seen many things
(23:21:05) (@h4x0r_dragon) right now
(23:21:14) (+Mc|Basstard) yeye
(23:21:14) (+Mc|Basstard) now u think
(23:21:14) (+Mc|Basstard) iam cheater ?
(23:21:15) (+Mc|Basstard)
(23:21:27) (+Mc|Basstard) cause i can write wallhacks in 2 hours ?
(23:21:33) (+Mc|Basstard) and tell u my easiest opinion ?
(23:22:25) (+Mc|Basstard) u mean that with ur words `?
(23:22:30) (+Mc|Basstard) then u are really funny
(23:22:53) (@h4x0r_dragon) dude wtf?

i really dont get what hes saying here. that im funny if i think he cheats. i dont. but his vain attempts at intimidation are ridiculous, right about now my querry is full of ROFL from the rest of the people on the channel

(23:23:05) (+Mc|Basstard) cause it has nothing too do with cheat that i know that, ask flex i bet he knows more about that then me, iam just server hoster who tests his pb.cfg with all things i find

admirable goal...

(23:23:18) (+Mc|Basstard) and i tuned for sure and tuned cfg and all stuff
(23:23:34) (@h4x0r_dragon) so how come your pb and pure lag if you are so tuned?
(23:23:47) (+Mc|Basstard) lol
(23:23:48) (@h4x0r_dragon) i can assure you ring zero never lagged with pb and pure on

wich is the truth, not flame, for those who joined e+ later, or didnt play on pb r0 servers

(23:23:55) (+Mc|Basstard) u cant tune pb or anything faster
(23:23:56) (@h4x0r_dragon) cause nihil actualy DID tune it

i just get a feeling hes not thinking at all... maybe its just me

(23:24:12) (+Mc|Basstard) just can add more cvars which sees more cheattools and variables
(23:24:17) (+Mc|Basstard) ye
(23:24:24) (+Mc|Basstard) and i made my own things
(23:24:34) (+Mc|Basstard) i dont have cfgs or anything from anyone else
(23:24:40) (+Mc|Basstard) i use my own stuff
(23:24:48) (+Mc|Basstard) how nihil does too
(23:25:33) (@h4x0r_dragon) you claim that pb and pure lag, and thats why you dont wanna use it. i call bullshit on that. they dont lag at all (-2 minutes of agressive scan on start)

as everyone knows.

(23:25:34) (+Mc|Basstard) anyway in my eyes pb is when i think someone cheat i turn it on and when he got kicked i look why and when not it is ok
(23:25:40) (+Mc|Basstard) exept autoshoot or such things
(23:25:46) (@h4x0r_dragon) dude CWs are played pb and pure
(23:25:57) (@h4x0r_dragon) live with it or dont play cws

and his reply managed to shock me no matter the fact i already thought hes as dumb as it gets... he manages to prove he can beat it.

(23:25:59) (+Mc|Basstard) who says that ?
(23:26:02) (+Mc|Basstard) who ?
(23:26:04) (+Mc|Basstard) god ?
(23:26:06) (+Mc|Basstard) hq ?
(23:26:06) (@h4x0r_dragon) THE FUCKING COMMUNITY

i totaly lost my temper here... damn arrogant kids.
and i, like, never loose my temper.

(23:26:07) (+Mc|Basstard) u ?
(23:26:08) (+Mc|Basstard) lol
(23:26:11) (+Mc|Basstard) nah man
(23:26:16) (@h4x0r_dragon) nah?
(23:26:22) (+Mc|Basstard) 70% of clans play without that stupid stuff

should i tell him that 70 % of clans dont survive more than 3 months?

(23:26:22) (@h4x0r_dragon) well then play with noobs
(23:26:27) (+Mc|Basstard) cause we trust each other
(23:26:37) (+Mc|Basstard) nah dont need too play with noobs
(23:26:45) (+Mc|Basstard) u are so arrogant and think u are the only ones
(23:26:48) (@h4x0r_dragon) well you wont play pros without pb and pure

im flaming him here, in case you miss it, right about here my querry is full of calm down and stuff, but i cant calm down.

(23:26:49) (+Mc|Basstard) for show wasp2
(23:26:56) (+Mc|Basstard) very good friends
(23:27:05) (@h4x0r_dragon) wasp 2 are good people
(23:27:05) (+Mc|Basstard) always play without pb and all stuff

yeah, youre the only one who ever played them

(23:27:08) (+Mc|Basstard)
(23:27:14) (+Mc|Basstard) so u wanna bann them ?

wtf? what banning? where? how?

(23:27:16) (@h4x0r_dragon) but they still played pb and pure with us without complaining

it was a great cw, it was wasp, filled with wasp2, so, yeah, techically they didnt, but i was trying to make him realise

(23:27:18) (+Mc|Basstard) or anything ?
(23:27:22) (+Mc|Basstard) LOL
(23:27:25) (+Mc|Basstard) but we dont man
(23:27:30) (@h4x0r_dragon) so dont

i think its a good point

(23:27:31) (+Mc|Basstard) where is the prob there ?
(23:27:40) (+Mc|Basstard) nobody can force me/us too do
(23:27:47) (@h4x0r_dragon) but you wont play us or viking, or ko, or swe, or evol, or lemon...
(23:27:54) (@h4x0r_dragon) etc

i know i oversteped my powers here, by talking in the name of other clans, but theese clans i was sure that they would back me on the point of pb and pure, mostly from comments on such topics before, and by knowing their leaders, and members.

(23:27:55) (+Mc|Basstard) lol
(23:28:00) (+Mc|Basstard) shit on u guys
(23:28:04) (+Mc|Basstard) thats my mind

sure i can show up here, be here 2 months and than proclaim the founder of the community, oldest members, most skilled players, etc... assholes

bravo l33t, bravo...

(23:28:12) (@h4x0r_dragon) well you have a right to be a dickhead

nobody can forbid him that...

(23:28:20) (+Mc|Basstard) ye
(23:28:22) (+Mc|Basstard) like u
(23:28:28) (+Mc|Basstard) i only do things u do me

where? when?

(23:29:13) (+Mc|Basstard) i dont mind if u play with me man, or this clans u are talking about cause there are enough other clans which have same mind then me about that

weeee, im sure everyone will now reply to this defending l33t

(23:29:30) (@h4x0r_dragon) ok
(23:29:35) (@h4x0r_dragon) lets see you entering leagues
(23:29:36) (+Mc|Basstard) hyper|Oniac: wasp2, lime, wasp, ooc, expr..... and much others
(23:29:41) (+Mc|Basstard) oO
(23:29:47) (+Mc|Basstard) hyper|Oniac: wasp2, lime, wasp, ooc, expr..... and much others
(23:29:51) (+Mc|Basstard) wtf is that
(23:29:52) (+Mc|Basstard) lol
(23:29:55) (+hyper|Oniac) wtf?
(23:30:10) (+Mc|Basstard) i just write hyper
(23:30:10) (+Mc|Basstard) lol
(23:30:13) (+hyper|Oniac)

seems he is unaware of nick completition... wow what 1337 hacker, im really wondering now how can he write a wallhack in 2 hours if he cant write...

(23:30:18) (@h4x0r_dragon) man, i can assure you lime wont be playing non pb or pure anymore

yeah im oversteping again, sorry tyr, weebl. my apologies

(23:30:25) (+Mc|Basstard) LOL
(23:30:27) (+Mc|Basstard) yeye
(23:30:36) (+Mc|Basstard) sure we play this sunday
(23:30:38) (+Mc|Basstard) against them
(23:30:40) (@h4x0r_dragon) yeah, especialy after seeing this conversation

again oversteping, sorry guys

(23:30:40) (+Mc|Basstard) without pure and pb
(23:30:45) (+Mc|Basstard) cause we trust each other
(23:30:56) (+Mc|Basstard) nah
(23:31:03) (+Mc|Basstard) this ppl arent so moronlike how u

wow how sweet tounged, repeating the insult to anyone who ever dared play under pb or pure

(23:31:08) (+Mc|Basstard) its me too damn
(23:31:10) (+Mc|Basstard) bye

theres more after this, buts its the drt channel laughing their asses off.

ok, you can call me a flamer, but he really pushed it over the edge, i leave it upon the community to decide how they wanna associate with him. i just didnt want to leave anyone in the dark.