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15. March 2008 - 10:05
#21
Look how small we are...
I like to think of the Christian God as a composite - made up of parts of many other pre-existing "Gods" and Goddesses from other cultures that were around long, long before YHWH or Allah or any other godform so lately invoked as "the one true god".
There are literally thousands upon thousands of gods throughout history. What gives so many the audacity to proclaim theirs the Only One, a la Neo in The Matrix - The One? It's pretty humorous 
15. March 2008 - 10:14
#22
Re: Look how small we are...
wrote:Buddha
He is not a god, he is a teacher.
wrote:Bla bla bla ... pile of shit .... bla bla bla
somehow you can't expect people to take you seriously if you can't even trouble yourself to first study all the religions before you jump to conclusions.
Its this kind of things that puts a bad name on atheists, kindoff like all those faggot kids running arround in black, wearing reverse crosses and chanting "666" puts a bad name on satanists.
wrote:And btw, Darwinism is often reduced in pop-sci articles to "the theory that humans originated from apes", but it's really not that simple: this is an over-generalization created over the last century and a half that has done more to damage Darwin's theory than to help it, in my eyes.
Yep, and it was made so to hurt that theory by the religious organizations.
It is simple playing upon a man's ego. Some religions keep on teaching us that we are the most evolved and best species, because humans have a big ego. Ego that needs satiation.
But we are not.
If you take a look as to what organism would stay on Earth no matter what happens, you can only come to the conclusion that the most evolved organisms are: bacteria, rats and cockroaches.
Virtually indestructible, extreme survivalists, and basically conquered the earth.
Hopefully humanity will one day stop thinking with its ego, and start using reason. Hopefully.
wrote:I don't believe that Darwinism crap as logical as it might look. Fuck that, I didnt evolve from a monkey. I prefer God to smelly monkeys.
Like i said ego > reason. 
15. March 2008 - 10:17
#23
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It's amazing to do as I said we're often wont to not do, earlier, and look at things in terms of time. I remember how badly this discussion might've gone two years ago, in terms of the status quo and their acceptance of new ideas... and how much the lot of us have grown in that time as a community... it's encouraging and warms my heart a bit to see it. 
15. March 2008 - 10:19
#24
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Oh and lastly, since religion came in, maybe this topic should get locked.
Religion, or lack of religion, is one thing that always, and i mean always, leads to wars (flame wars in this case).
So lets lock this while we are still on the "try to convince others to your point of view" phase, and not when we hit the "slay the heathens" phase.
15. March 2008 - 10:43
#25
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Agreed. I'm not religious at all (although I would consider myself having reached a spiritual awareness previously unguessed at in my life), and I see that some who are have a hard time keeping it to themselves. 
15. March 2008 - 11:56
#26
Re: Look how small we are...
wrote:I don't believe that Darwinism crap as logical as it might look. Fuck that, I didnt evolve from a monkey. I prefer God to smelly monkeys.Like i said ego > reason.
Go play your philosophic crap on someone else. I dont care what was the full theory of Darwin, I still say he was a fag. That's my opinion and u cant change it.
All this talk about gods, origins of everything is pointless and uber pointless because NOBODY knows FOR SURE what's what and who's who. We just adopt one of the existing theories or sometimes even create our own.
ps. no need for a lock yet, but as soon as/if flames pop up, it will be locked.
15. March 2008 - 12:12
#27
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Trance, the point wasn't to be right or wrong or to know anything definitely (the nature of knowledge vs. faith is such that knowledge can easily be expounded upon and "ideals" can change, whereas faith is something that we're supposed to experience in the lack of what's considered absolute -- e.g., knowledge). It was really just to point out, hey... this is how little we really know, how small we are as compared to the vast and unknowable expanse of the universe. 
No reason to get defensive. 
15. March 2008 - 12:45
#28
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seriously its bs such discussion . 
have put those question some years ago when i was 14 ... thought u passed this 
as rix said :
" well i stopped thinking of that stuff because i know i'll never understand and i guess it wouldn't get me much farther in life if i did anyways. "
15. March 2008 - 12:50
#29
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[Why start religious discussion when it just can't end (good)!? It rarely does.]
On topic: Yeah, I've always been fascinated by space..its beautiful and so mysterious.
And to belive we r the only one is just being blind (or acting stupid - like when people thought the Earth was flat board, or that Sun goes around us - egoistic fucks 
). But thats us, small humans...long way to go for people, if the planet survives the plague - us.
Shame that its still centuries away from us getting to the places we only can spectate now. Until then - Star Trek & other SF is the "way" of travel
15. March 2008 - 13:38
#30
Re: Look how small we are...
wrote:BuddhaHe is not a god, he is a teacher.
Ooh so i was wrong? take pleasure in it while you can grandpa!
Bla bla bla ... pile of shit .... bla bla bla
somehow you can't expect people to take you seriously if you can't even trouble yourself to first study all the religions before you jump to conclusions.
Its this kind of things that puts a bad name on atheists, kindoff like all those faggot kids running arround in black, wearing reverse crosses and chanting "666" puts a bad name on satanists.
All religion is aboute the same principles.
Create a felling of affinity, reverence, symbolic portray the undescribeable and illustrate a supernatural reality, and we have the ethic and moral valuation, but i think it was allready in place but religion could be used as a tool to maintain and clarify the ethics and moral to society. Gah there is more but i have to piddle, been holding it for like half an hour, but you dont really have to study every religion when its basicly build up on the same principles.
Ooh so represent all atheist now? Pha jee if i knew that i would express myself different. Ok its not a pile of shit. Its a bunch of crap! Like you when comparing me to be those: faggot kids running arround black. You see if you cant respect me, why should i for just one second give a fuck of what you say? Take that in consideration.
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