Well I've both pc and iMac and for working&designing I use the iMac and for gaming I use PC ;] period <3

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Right word about right thing, I am Apple user and what I can say good soft and comfortable stuff but all fan boys will deff they rights in that Apple is best brand in the world, if Apple will start produce cars and that cars won't be so fast so economic -say it: SHIT just well designed with Apple logo and double price of classic cars, people will buy it and tell everybody "I have an Apple car and it's not so fast and economic because engineers wanted to make my drive more carefully

-slower, and to using public transport for reduce greenhouse gases when I don't have money for petrol thats why it's not economic but it's Apple KURWA!"

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Of course there are plenty of non Apple-branded devices that are excellent for professional use, but then a Mac is way cheaper (example : 27" 2560x1440 Dell/Hp/Eizo Display + professional 256/512/1TB SSD + good mechanical keyboard + additional display + professional GPU + and + and + and... etc and you get a 10K$ computer..)

i kinda disagree with u, if u want to have the same hardware as mac has inside u will pay a lot less than buying a mac, but if we speak about TRUE professional hardware it will be expensive, but then if we will compare this workstation to mac, it will look like F1 vs VW golf (or any other car)

Yes ! I was talking aout highly accurate professional hardware (for instance, monitors for labs/scanner/MRI and such)

But you're right : buying same hardware out of a mac case will be twice cheaper at least !

@Tanaka, good troll and thank you for calling me a retard. I think you are confusing Apple fanboys and Apple professional users, you probably missed the point of this discussion down here ;-)But please tell me, have you ever tried a Mac for professional purposes (I mean real services that would make you live ?)It's not because you are defending one team or an other that you have to be hermetic to any discussion. If life would be just about telling your short-egoistic point of view, then you'd be our president

Okay je comprends ton point de vue.En revanche ce qu'il faut pas perdre de vue c'est que le marché des machines professionnelles est un grand lobby, dominé majoritairement par Microsoft, avec le soutient des manufactureurs type Dell, Lenovo, HP etc. qui avec de gros accords tarifaires vendent des lots immenses de machines à des entreprise dd'ingénierie informatique (par exemple des SSII comme Steria, Dell, Bull, Cap Gemini, ou de gros services informatiques comme 99% des postes informatiques en universités, services publics, banques ou autre). Bref tout ça n'est qu'une question d'argent.

À titre d'exemple les infrastructures Mac sont bien plus développées chez les Agences, Studios, Freelances ou autres startup car : rapide à mettre en place et pas forcément beaucoup de machines à acheter d'un coup (on peut pas comparer le parc informatique de Cap Gemini france (ptete 10000 machines) avec les 300 Mac de chez Dailymotion ou je ne sais quoi d'autre).

Sinon pour la programmation, des tas de gens programment sur Mac OS, peu importe le langage, les compileurs (quand nécessaires) sont présents, et niveau performance l'OS joue très peu, surtout avec le matériel actuel.Tu peux pas dire TOUS les programmeurs puis "la majorité" puis "du moins ceux que je connais" dans une même phrase, ça n'a pas de sens.Pour ce qui est des gadgets, je vois pas trop où tu veux en venir, on peut très bien comparer les widgets Windows Vista/7, mais manque de bol il n'y a rien de similaire sur Mac, à moins de télécharger des softs. Je ne vois pas non plus ce que tu reproches à l'interface, j'utilises moi même les 2 et de temps en temps Ubuntu et personnellement je trouve celle de Mac bien plus intuitive, après à mon avis cela reste une question de goûts.Dommage que tu généralises tant surtout en trollant comme ça, ça te rend pas très crédible, notamment dans notre cas pour ce qui est de savoir apprécier puis juger la valeur de tes arguments.

En somme je dirais que tout est une question de goûts, de coûts (notamment à grande échelle et pour un large parc informatique) et de pression commerciale. À titre d'exemple, la gendarmerie française commence à migrer l'intégralité de son parc informatique sur Ubuntu, pour éviter les coûts liés aux licenses sur Windows.
Après c'est sûr, il reste la carte de l'OS assez limité pour ce qui est des fermes de rendus type Blizzard ou grosse boîte de prod, mais visiblement ce n'est pas ce qu'Apple cible, sinon leur matériel serait adapté en conséquence : quand on veut on peut surtout quand on a les moyens d'Apple.

PS : tu fais l'apologie des studios de jeux vidéos, mais ce n'est qu'un petit ensemble de programmeurs.

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Okay I understand your point of view.However it must not lose sight of is that the market is a large professional machines lobby, dominated mainly by Microsoft, with the support of such manufactureurs Dell, Lenovo, HP, etc.. that tariff agreements with large sell lots of huge machines dd'ingénierie computer company (eg IT companies like Steria, Dell, Bull, Cap Gemini, or wholesale services as 99% of the workstations in universities, utilities banks, or other). Anyway it's all a question of money.

For example Mac infrastructure are more developed in agencies, studios, freelancers and other startup because: Quick to implement and not necessarily to buy many machines at once (you can not compare the installed base of Cap Gemini France (10000 ptete machines) with Mac 300 in Dailymotion or whatever else).

Otherwise for programming, a lot of people programmed on Mac OS, regardless of the language, compilers (when necessary) are present, and the OS level performance plays very little, especially with the current hardware.You can not say ALL programmers then "most" and "at least the ones I know," in the same sentence, it does not make sense.Regarding gadgets, I do not see exactly where you're going, you can very well compare widgets Windows Vista / 7, but lacks bowl there is nothing similar on Mac, unless downloading apps . I do not blame you for that interface, I myself using 2 and occasionally Ubuntu and I personally find it much more intuitive Mac after in my opinion it is a matter of taste.Too bad you especially widespread as trolling like that, it makes you not very credible, especially in our case that is able to appreciate and judge the value of your arguments.

In short I would say that it is all a matter of taste, cost (including large-scale and a large installed base) and commercial pressure. For example, the French gendarmerie begins to migrate its entire IT infrastructure on Ubuntu, to avoid the costs associated with licenses on Windows.
After this course, there is the map of the OS rather limited regarding farms Blizzard made such big box or prod, but obviously this is not what Apple target if their equipment is suitable accordingly: when you want especially when you can afford to Apple.