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gen.X.SuperBo!
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First of all, I was *not* begging mulle to let us play on mr servers. I was ok with if I wasnt allowed to play because he had a beef with me, but I thought it was unfair to not let any other clans play there or other members of GenX that mulle wasnt really angry at.

This is the way I see what has happened on BRO and now mr servers and please, understand that this might not be the whole truth, just the truth the way I, SuperBo!, see it.

1. I decide not to join BRO because I have no time and I dont really want to be in clan. A couple of months later I actually start a clan, GenX. Mulle gets angry at me and says I have been lying about not having time. When Pandora from BRO joins (And I didn't ask Pandora to join until after she left BRO because I didn't want to recruit from other clans because I want many good clans not just one or two). Mulle gets even more mad and closes servers and later decides that no other clans but mr and BRO can play on their servers. Fine. So I don't play on them, I removed the tag once because I thought that was ok because I've seen members of GenX and other clans do that, but I never lied about who I was. No other clans but mr and BRO can play BRO servers.

2. Mulle and mr are accused of cheating by Lasse-Maja and Lasse is promptly banned from servers. THIS ONE I AGREE TOTALLY WITH MULLE ON. Lasse-Maja went too far and starting going from server and server accusing mulle and BRO servers for encouraging cheaters. Mulle closes servers again to later open them.

3. Mulle decides that no other language than english are allowed on mr and BRO servers.

4. Mulle doesn't want anyone to use alternative nicks (????????). Haven't seen them forbidden though.

5. Recruiting on BRO and mr servers are forbidden for anyone but BRO and mr. Pandora, rudz and SuperBo! thinks that sux and says it. Mulle gets mad and decides to leave q3 for good. Don't know at this point if this means that servers are going down again.

On point 3 and 4 I just don't understand what is going on? Does mulle need to know everything that happens on his servers? Or is he just afraid someone is talking bad about mr and BRO? And alternative nicks is a bad thing how?

1 and 5 is ofcourse up to the administrator and owner of server, I am not saying that mulle can't set up his own rules. What I am saying is that these particular rules are killing the clan community. Like it or not, BRO servers and mr servers are the E+ community for the bigger part of european E+ players today. The servers are fast, well balanced and the setup is the best and they are well administrated technically. They have also been around the longest as far as I know which means that they are the most popular, hence most players play on BRO and mr servers.

When I say that the no recruiting rule kills the clan community I mean that if 95% of all active E+ players play on mr and BRO and there can be no clan creation or clan expansion on these servers then there will be no more clans. GenX, and I want to make this totally clear, are not looking for new members so the no recruiting rule does not affect our clan. It affects ALL (mr, BRO, FRV, GenX and WASP) active clans however because there will be no more competing clans. When people come on my servers and start asking if they can join GenX I say that we have enough, start a new clan and fight us instead. mr are sucking up members right and left and that is fine with me but it will make it less likelly for more good clans to emerge.

GenX members (at least as far as I have seen with my own two eyes, there might have been occasions where we havent that I havent seen) has been civil mouthing our opinion about this and we are answered with namecalling and rudeness.

[mr] is a very good clan with some spectacular players in it, why dont you want more clans? competition is *GOOD* what is the fun of beeing the best clan of 2 or 3 clans when you can be the best of 15? And the massive recruiting, whats that all about? You really need 15 members?

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Hi Bo and all...

It is already sad like everything develops.
I can play to April does not end professionally actively.

And now tries to receive Matsen new player if this goes on so I am pessimistic.
The team GS maintains 2 servers with good pings which cost, unfortunately, monthly a lot of money.
These are not used or only very rarely....
If develops here so...
If there are soon only 2-3 teams and only some servers... Damage actually...

Still one ...... it has actually reflect e + league to start??
But only if fundamentally something changes.

Best Regards
[GS] Maxhead

pandora!box
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Couldnt agree more. Have nothing more to say. Theese were my opinions. Thats all

ADLER.002
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i agree with pans statement!

i read all publics and messages which are arived at this time about the problem. now i think that this "forumwar" will never end!!!! so i have nothing more to say.... or i will nothing say.
it's a pity that the community die on this way. i'm sad about that.

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