National Clans. Patriotism is a key ?

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National Clans ! Patriotism is a key ?

Simply.

National thing, can improve advertisement on every country, so we need stronger positions for National's - and better system.

Making National Clan will restrict players to have freedom play on other clans, so i think there is a huge problem.

National Teams, is not attractive - cause is not ranked, it can't compare to clans, and have name team (as that means nothing serious).

Then Nationals wins, wins all country, and every on team says we play for our country, hey newcomer fight for country, with that patriotism is a way to rise and push e+ from inside very country's with unite feeling; these things sounds and brings some pride inside everyone.

Nationals must be main ranked position on e+, side by side but over clans

Why ?.

Side by side with clans, involving NEW rule - if member is on Clan and on National Clan - first thing must be N-Clan and Clan on 2nd place, in that way nationals can be ranked and atractive, push e+ forward true (from inside) every country and clans stays as clans, and more this will bring more competition's on clan wars !; Clans can't propose this thing they are mixed... (and theres isn't a clan onl from one country members..).

Can community accept this thing seriously ?

LNT lives actively since beginning (started as LT clan ...that lived on this sucky system way too shortly (until transformed to what it is now) is that means nothing as an example how good this work if it pushed seriously ? LT's are ~30, ~10 w actives...

Anyway (nwm clan or team..) Nationals must be threaded and pushed in front, cause as i see only NAT'S can have bigger potential well organized (centralized) as we see national can be only one(rule), that means all country's players enemies or not, cheaters or not, kids or seniors, is concentrated to one clean place, one main single attraction point, at every country. This will work like fireplaces, spreading e+ fire over country's.

This is what about.

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Re: National Clans. Patriotism is a key ?

Thats not possible atm, and not neccesary at all. However, national clan looks more serious that national team in our case, but who cares because a name doesnt change nothing.

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Re: National Clans. Patriotism is a key ?
JUMPS'FPS! wrote:

Thats not possible atm, and not neccesary at all. However, national clan looks more serious that national team in our case, but who cares because a name doesnt change nothing.

Technicaly there is no limitation.
How comes - You say is not neccesary, and changes nothing ?
What do you mean and why ?
Your points ?

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Side by side with clans, involving NEW rule - if member is on Clan and on National Clan - first thing must be N-Clan and Clan on 2nd place, in that way nationals can be ranked and atractive, push e+ forward true (from inside) every country and clans stays as clans, and more this will bring more competition's on clan wars !; Clans can't propose this thing they are mixed... (and theres isn't a clan onl from one country members..).

The majority of people think they think, when really they just change their prejudices. Understanding is a matter of will in most cases.

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Re: National Clans. Patriotism is a key ?

national teams are kinda for fun because of lack of members for many teams.

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Re: National Clans. Patriotism is a key ?

patriotism in germany = automatically racism.

If u r proud of ur country in germany u get automatically marked as a nazi. sad, but true.

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Technicaly there is no limitation.
How comes - You say is not neccesary, and changes nothing ?
What do you mean and why ?
Your points ?

Well, for first like skull has mentioned, theese teams are kinda for fun due of not enough partipiating players from countryes , ofcourse we can find 5-6 countryes which wont have any problems with a squad, but not others.

Also u coud try to imagine russian or poland teams for example, there are 10~ players in each and its fine for them, what will do the other players which werent invited to a team? Anyhow at serious cw the best squad has to play, so no point to recruit every people from country to a team and dont let them play.

Tehnicaly its possible yes, but its kinda not needed again, however there are a lot of events each month, and only one national cup in a year, and its also good.

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We already talked with you many times about it, if National Team will have equil status with clans ill leave LNT, im sure Ufas, Excali and some other people would do same. We playing with clans much more than with national teams, we enjoying to play with them and so on. Always and everywhere national teams are teams just for 1-2 events in year, its not just e+ idea. And if you want to play with Lithuanians in clan, join BOS, im sure karkus would be happy about it.

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LNT lives actively since beginning (started as LT clan ...that lived on this sucky system way too shortly (until transformed to what it is now) is that means nothing as an example how good this work if it pushed seriously ? LT's are ~30, ~10 w actives...

Its not true... LT clan and LNT team always was separated, it never was one team. LT clan was clan and LNT was national team, they never had same people in each. Also LT clan never was really active (at least not in e+, if i remember good they played in OSP), and LNT was active only at 2006 and after it i needed to 2 years to make it active again. So better collect more information, before talking next time. And believe me, clans almost always are much better organised than national teams.

PS. National Teams have they ranking...
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MODS, my all fucking text is in english so, i have right to make one paragraph in Lithuanian... Serious, its starting to be more retarded than always was...

Anubi, būk žmogus nepradėk vėl tų nesąmonių savo su national clans ir vienos tautybės narių klanais... Jau 100 kartų tas apkalbėta, o be to žiauriai nusišneki kai dėstai faktus neatitinkančius realybės ir pateiki pavyzdžius kurie visiškai netinka situacijai

If you really want to know that i wrote to him..

Desultory, be a man do not start again the nonsense with their national clans and members of one ethnic clans ... Least
100 times the apkalbėta, but also when the teacher nusišneki brutal
facts of reality do not comply and provides examples of situations which
are completely inappropriate (c) google translator

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Re: National Clans. Patriotism is a key ?

Chill out little Froggy. Understanding is a matter of will, in most cases (i just love these words..).  You wrote "will leav..", you saw here only what you want, and that was again same and only one side. Take a deeep breath...  

Btw, to cheer up, topic is  

"National Clans. Patriotism is a key ?"

mow Q [EN] wrote:

patriotism in germany = automatically racism.

If u r proud of ur country in germany u get automatically marked as a nazi. sad, but true.

Last weekend I worked for neighbourhoods, warm and friendly old people. I was without any idea, how much they are survived comparing to Me. Only later I saw some book onto Her desk that They released in memory of some people. They were Siberian exiles, sad one story... I say it is a past, treat it as past to improve yourself today, for tomorrow. And yours straight touch to Germany's past, bringing some past it to the surface, reminds me some opposite example: as some peple believe the '06 world cup, held in Germany was the turning point for patriotism in the country. It is said that besides the wall comming down in 1989, the World Cup was the largest display of national pride since Nazi Germany... 

Patriotism racism.. 
Its like you're calling nationalism sexism!

The majority of people think they think, when really they just change their prejudices. Understanding is a matter of will in most cases.

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