pb should be enabled from time to time during game just to check ppl. And dont give a fuck that some1 got something with pb - if u got to play u should have time to fix pb problems. Im also dont know if ive got no pb problems so thats a good idea to check. Well..but in short way - IF U DONT MIND ABOUT CHEATERS AND GIVING MOTHERFUCKERS SOME KIND OF CARDS OR SECOND CHANCE than pls dont even telling about punkbuster.ps. caps lock especially turns on via script.

Okay, let's try this as slow and nice as possible. You are putting forth a suggestion and I'm responding to it. The argument in your suggestion I characterize as dishonest, ergo if you are against PB you are for cheaters. That's nonsensical and cheap. Secondly there is no flame, being from Greece you should understand the concept of debate and its function.

Thirdly I characterize you as paranoid because time and time again you distrust people without even bothering to record a demo or to report a player, that in turn leads me to believe it's just sour grapes with you and your suspicions. If you do believe someone is cheating, post a demo or notify an admin. Lastly you have no real concept of this game being played before you got here, PB has been tried on & off since 2005 or earlier. And no, I don't have anything to hide - nice straw man. Try to read the arguments next time.

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Demos are useless because you cant understand clear if someone is cheating or not. Becides even if you post something without a kick is useless aswell coz the player wich accused will not accept it ofc Big grin.

You can, if you are unsure you should gather more material. That said I do agree there is a problem with people simply denying and everyone without a clue agreeing. Which is why again you should gather more material and involve more people, before accusing. It's not an argument for PB though.

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So we need some kick like PB does ( Player XXX kicked for blablabla reason ). Only with this way you have enough proofs.

But kicks have been disputed before and people have wriggled out of them, not to mention 99% of the kicks are for useless stuff. You still don't understand what Zont wrote, there is such a miniscule player base playing there that it becomes easy to advocate PB being off. Eventual cheaters should be recorded and reported, and then PB turned on if needed.

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Also if someone holds the rcon pass of the server can change the level of the Anticheat so there is no support from it aswell. So the cheaters can use easily there cheats without problems.

There is one RCON holder for Beer as far as I know, go ahead and ask her. The rest have ref. You see where I was coming from with the paranoia comment?

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Tell me now honestly its not? You dont want clean server, clean plaeyrs, fair game? Why is not open? Ok until now maybe noone think of it and now the time came someone to suggest it. Dont think only from your side but think also from my side. I am a players that joins a server to play without feels safe from scums like cheaters. So what i will think from the admins? They support them. Happy Anyway i dont accuse them doing it but think about my suggestion and test it.

It's as if you don't read what is written in response. It's entirely irrelevant what I want or not, PB has no bearing on it. It's not "open" (that is on 24/7) for the reasons already listed. People have thought of it, and it has been used in the past. You don't feel secure, okay. I attribute this to your distrust and paranoia of your co-players. It would be better if you came out and said what you thought outright, without insinuating stuff time and again.

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You also say that you test PB on and off in 2005 that means 7 years ago when people was having 56/124 kb connections. Now we all have dsl connections and is not a problem and you know it. Also twith this comment you show me that you want to avoid it. Again i dont accuse you or the admins dont take it with that way.

PB makes the game sluggish as it did in 2005, even when I play on a much superior rig today. And the issue with player base and kicks remain. You should be glad pure is still on.

EDIT: Just to add a few points, PB used to be turned on temporarily by admins. It resulted in emptying the server by 2/3 every single time. Having it turned on permanently is like hunting game with carpet bombings, there is nothing to justify it. If you see a suspect player, note his name and record him. Or talk about him to an admin, record him several times or have an admin turn on PB. But on the basis of your own misgivings have such an intrusive instrument as PB on at public games (you know, those made for ease of play) is silly and borderline paranoid. And yes, let's add that it won't have the effect you expect.