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PB and Pure must be used!
8. April 2006 - 11:03
#111
PB and Pure must be used!
So there is no way to remotely check if the SERVER has additional pk3's loaded unless u minimum have rcon?
16. April 2006 - 10:17
#112
PB and Pure must be used!
Ok, this topic could probably get closed now.
Id like to make some points though:
Altough only a minority of the community voted here, those are the votes that count. In real life, who is president is determined by the percentage of people that actualy go voting, those who stay home are intentionaly letting their future be decided by those who didnt. So we can consider this a legitimate poll. It wasnt anonimous, imo that is good in this case.
Also @ Iz: there isnt. Unfortunatly. Imo for clanwars the command to check the server should be placed on refree, and then refree pass given to both teams leaders, so each can be sure there is no extra on the server.
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now, i counted the votes its:
39 yes. i added 4 votes here altough it wasnt 100% clear from their posts if they actualy vote yes or no.
those 4 were:
bodz - he wasnt really for the way it was first intended, but his point of view was taken as what the poll represents by mow, few posts up. so i consider his vote a yes.
mullder - he was probably drunk again when typing, i couldnt quite figure out that one completely (just kidding you mulle 
)
bert - he didnt specificaly say he agrees (or i missed it) but his posts insinuate it.
chaos - he said yes to pb, but didnt mention pure. i assumed he also meant that.
if any of you 4 actualy voted no, please post here again.
one person was indiferent.
5 people were against, altough i added one person even though he didnt specificaly say he objects.
persons i wasnt sure:
budman - he said yes, but then said who cares, so i interpreted it as a vote for no.
if you want your vote to be counted as yes, budman, please post here.
perhaps the topic should be closed now, all who cared about voting, did.
86.67 % of community agrees with that as a rule, 2.22% doesnt care, 11.11% disagrees.
12. May 2006 - 23:06
#113
PB and Pure must be used!
before this topic is locked i ll add this i know some of you know this infos already but better to have it here. :
1/a pure server never checks mod folders.it checks only baseq3 folder.
for example u can have six mods installed in q3 ,and go connect to a Pure cpma server only...(means it doenst have E+ mod installed on server) .. no problem.wich is logic.
2/in baseq3 folder are allowed only maps.and pakX.pk3s wich are like this :
-Pak0.pk3 (46,8 megas bytes approximatively)
-Pak1.pk3 (366 ko approximatively)
-Pak2.pk3 (7,33 megas approximatively)
-Pak3.pk3 (270 ko appr.)
-pak4.pk3 (9,366 megas appr.)
-pak5.pk3 (188 ko)
-pak6.pk3 (7,175 megas)
-pak7.pk3 (314 ko)
-pak8.pk3 (444 ko)
those file sizes are those of a quake 3 arena installation given to me by HQ, it matches the q3 he has. and i tested it on other pure servers from other mods.
none of the files above come from E+ installation. some of them are from
original releases of q3 and others have been added by pointreleases , like 1.32 for example.
Of course ,server must have exactly the same sizes as those listed above to be considered standard.
ps : client must have /cl_allowdownload set to 1 , to be able to download additionnal pk3 files from server ( like custom bot files if there is any on server).
PPS: if u run a non pure Server , and u turn it to pure by /rcon sv_pure 1 , all players will be kicked regardless of how "pure the are" , you need to rotate server before it becomes pure and it doenst kick players. (cause pure setting is latched like g_gametype)
after rotation players can connect back.
regards.
13. May 2006 - 9:29
#115
PB and Pure must be used!
![mow Q [EN]](/files/screenname/8646b528fbbe1090dc61e0f29405d1b3.webp "mow Q [EN]"){kind=small}
wrote:should i add now to the topic starter...
- just if both clans agree, the match can be played unpure/pb 0?
i belive so. obviously we cant check them anyway... yet 
13. May 2006 - 9:35
#116
PB and Pure must be used!
I don't think so. But that's only my opinion.
wrote:imo it's just like football. if 2 teams agree to play withour a referee can they play without him? just to be sure i say pb+pure always on.and there's of course the possibility that both clans have cheaters in their ranks
13. May 2006 - 9:44
#117
PB and Pure must be used!
rena can be invited in clan war matches.
13. May 2006 - 11:03
#118
PB and Pure must be used!
wrote:rena can be invited in clan war matches.
Rena must do some improvment in being referee, and one person cant handle such meny ranking clan wars, couse he alredy have his duty as a member of other clan
but well organised group of ppl can do that
13. May 2006 - 11:03
#119
PB and Pure must be used!
yes
13. May 2006 - 11:15
#120
PB and Pure must be used!
Yes, i agree, a small team taskgroup should get the assignment for optimizing the efficiency of the job. That means also that the job efficiency could be maybe 90-100% instead of all the work load on 1 person would reflect in a smaller value on for instance 70-80%.
The selection of that Taskgroup could be done by a combination of 2 ways, vuluntiers/votes. A leader or manager of that group could be created to sort out witch jobs that have to be done on specific times, but it should be up to the taskgroup to select the person that have the best organisation skills and the lust for it.
wrote:
but well organised group of ppl can do that
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should i add now to the topic starter...
- just if both clans agree, the match can be played unpure/pb 0?