Pride 33: The Second Coming Feb 24th 07

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http://www.prideofficial.com/events/pride33/special/

ps. Can anyone please tell me (nec i want you to watch this, cuz i know you'll know it) the music in the second video on the right aka the introduction video. i sounds like battle music from the gladiator. Im on about the first part of the vid introducing wanderlei silva with the thunder bolt sfx, whats that opera style batte music. ty.

First person to post the title of the song shall recieve my eternal blessing, a free game of bowling where i work, and my autograph. Cool

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First part seems to be variations on Bach's toccata and fugue in D Minor - there have been numerous pieces of music of liturgical, celebrational, and even seasonal concert type pieces for coronations that were based on this piece, so it's hard to say. This would include the march section of the piece because it's obviously in D minor also and carries over well from the first part - but sounds like late romantic from the Russian school (maybe Rachmaninov or one of the more eccentrics of "The Five Greats").

You might also want to try one of the more popular Shostakovich symphonies for a similar vibe (hell, it might even be from a Shosty symphony, as his later symphonies such as No. 11 and No. 14 are in minor keys - D Min. may be a relative fifth to the 'home' key, as it were, and so an ideal key for a middle movement... which wouldn't be as well-known by the general public and more likely to be used in a piece of multimedia like this).

Barring that I can't give you a much better answer without digging deep. If you can't find a satisfying answer I'll ask around - I have friends in prominent musical academies all over the world (St. Petersburg, Boston, Baltimore, Norway, Poland, et cetera), they might be able to help more. Cool

Edit - Also check any operatic or symphonic march you can find by Prokofiev. I'm a huge fan of Prokofiev's chamber music (string quartets, duos for cello and piano, et cetera) and his violin concerti, but I don't care for his large-scale symphonic works or his sonatas. Altho his music for children album/compilation was quite interesting despite it's obviously 'socialistic' bend (which he didn't quite agree with but went along with the production of it anyway because, hey, this was while Russia was under Stalin's rule... and we all know what happened to people who pissed off Josef Stalin. Yeah. They disappeared. Thinking)

Interesting side note about the above statement, Prokofiev was often tormented by Stalin with prank calls in the dead of night. And then in 1953 I believe, when Stalin died, Prokofiev had actually been in New York City and uh... he dropped dead within hours of hearing the news that Stalin had passed. Tormented by him for decades... and then died right after him. Crazy, isn't it? </end>

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Pride 33: The Second Coming Feb 24th 07

what a fucking reply. I was expecting some info, but not literally a whole text document lol. what can i say nec, you amaze me Big grin this is like something off of wikipidea, very detailed., Id have this as my sig quote but uh itss kinda to large Tongue.anyways, i'll check on some of the stuff you detailed in there, also Prokofiev dying hours after Stalin, that is spooky. Conspiracy theory. They should make a film of something about it.

anyways ill have another look on the net with help from the info you have give here, though i dont have a clue what half of the terms you have used mean, (liturgical, coronations, sonatas eh?) im sorry, but im not a mucisian lol.

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UPDATE: Turns out the piece of music is from Gustav Holst's 'The Planets' - Mars, the Bringer of War (8.02). If you check from 4.40 of this track, it is the exact part used in the pride 33 introduction video i linked above, which i wanted Winking

I initially thought that piece was somewhere from the Gladiator soundtrack by Hans Zimmer. Theres a track on this called 'The Battle' which is remarkably similar to that of Holsts piece. Turns out agents of Holst took filed a lawsuit against Zimmer for plagirism of certain parts of tracks on 'The Planets' composition. This is why i was confused, as the two have sections that sound very alike.

'In June of 2006, agents representing the estate of composer Gustav Holst (1874–1934) filed a lawsuit claiming that Zimmer plagiarized material from the The Planets.' - wikipedia

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LOL You'd think 50 years after people started ripping him off in mainstream media they'd be used to it - true enough, Holst's "The Planets" is probably one of the most quoted and paraphrased pieces of music written in the 20th century. I'm surprised I didn't recognize it myself, being from 'Mars' - probably the most quoted piece of an oft-quoted piece of music ever. Laughing

I'm not a fan of Holst, however. The "Jupiter" movement is okay tho. Tongue

As an interesting side note there was some dude who updated "The Planets" suites to include Pluto. I find this hilarious now that Pluto is no longer considered a planet, but it's par for the course: I never considered the new "Pluto" segment a piece of music. More like pedantic dreck.

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