problems with pb !!

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1. February 2006 - 16:40
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Hey there,

I have a bad problem and hope somebody can help me. Whenever I connect to a server with pb on, my computer stops working after some seconds. It stops working so damn hard, that i have to push the reset-button. So I updated pb and reinstalled quake, but with no success. In past I never had problems with pb on. Another strange thing is, that it happened suddenly, I changed nothing in my quake-files.

Any suggestions?

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1. February 2006 - 16:54
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problems with pb !!

source: http://www.evenbalance.com/index.php?page=faq-q3.php

must be one of these two

My game crashes with an error in pbcl.dll or a General Protection Fault. Why?

This issue can be from a program that conflicts with PB. There are a few known program that cause this:

* Get Right
* DU Super Controler
* Macro Toolsworks
* Girder 3.2
* PRTG Traffic Grapher
* MS Office: ctfmon.exe (rarely)
* CyberCorder: cybrcrdr.exe
* Paessler Router Traffic Grapher: prtg4.exe
* 3dnasys.exe
* mIRCStats

Closing those programs, or any like them that contain user or kernel level debuggers should stop the problem.

or

My computer locks up or "chugs" sometimes while I'm playing with PunkBuster Enabled, what can cause this?

PunkBuster "pushes" hardware and the Windows Operating System more than most software and uses functions in the Windows API (low level functions) that aren't used by most other programs. As such, there are a few cases where using PB can actually expose flaky hardware or other situations that don't cause problems for other software. Here are a few things that have helped other users make these problems get better or go away completely:

* Make sure you are using the latest version of PunkBuster (the latest version is always on our Download page) - also this link may help manually update your PB to the latest version when necessary
* From the game's main screen, press the tilde key (the ~ key) to bring down the console and enter the following line (without the quotes): "/pb_system 1".
* Never close other programs from your Windows Task Manager before playing the game, either leave them running or close them through the proper interface - killing a process doesn't always work completely even if it stops showing in the Task Manager and renegade threads seem to conflict with PB more than other programs that may be running in memory. There is a free utility that some players use called EndItAll to close all extra programs before they play to avoid software conflicts, crashes and lockups. You can get it from here.
* Check the add/remove programs list in your Control Panel and uninstall any programs that you don't use or that you don't know what they are.
* One program that seems to conflict with PB more than others is Norton Anti-Virus. If you have it installed, try uninstalling it to see if the lockups go away. Some players have reported that when this is the culprit, they can reinstall Norton Anti-Virus and the lockups don't come back.
* Other background programs that seem to conflict with PB for some users are Sound Blaster Live software and helper programs that come with video cards (especially ATI keyboard shortcut programs).
* Some players discovered that they had a computer virus and that the lockups vanished after it was fully removed.
* Experiment with the pb_sleep setting ... try setting it to 20, 250, or 500 to see if that affects your game performance. A few players have reported that all the problems go away when they "tweak" this setting.
* In extreme cases, a few users have reported that replacing their RAM (memory) or video/sound cards fixed the problem.

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1. February 2006 - 17:12
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Thx for your answer !

I go through the list. I dont have theese programs and all im running during quake is quake itself. I set pb_sleep to 500 and put pb_system to 1.
All without success. Now I am scanning my computer for a virus and hope that finally it isnt my RAM.

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1. February 2006 - 21:29
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my results so far,

I checked my computer for viruses after updating my scanner, no viruses found.
I checked my RAM, I got 2 of them ala 512 MB, used them single, no success.
So I have absolutly no idea why this happens, *sigh*

Maybe a good time to quit Quake Winking

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1. February 2006 - 21:42
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You said you changed nothing in your quake files. Did you change anything else with your computer, like install any programs, or change system settings? Perhaps a Windows Update or something similar? There's got to be something you did to spawn the error.

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1. February 2006 - 21:43
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maybe try a registry cleaner

google for regsupreme

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1. February 2006 - 21:56
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@parasight

Thats hard to say, because the effect I recognized now could have been present longer. There arent many server who run pb. Some servers run pb sometimes. But I changed no basic-programs like windows-updates or anything else. I think the last time I played with pb on and had no problems is about 2 weeks ago. From this point, there were no big changes at my computer.

@Taker
Thx, I will search for it and try if this could help me

I told Fleischer, my SGR-mate to send me his pb-files. He did. Maybe there is always a download- or install-problem with pbweb or something like this. So I will take his pb-files and try if it will work.

So far thx for ur interests in my problem

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1. February 2006 - 23:17
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Ok, now I checked my hardware, I deinstalled all I installed the last time, I took care of my registries, but all dont help. The problem stays the same. It is a real miracle for me, but ok, I think I have to accept it right now.
Thx to all who tried to help me.

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1. February 2006 - 23:20
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î had the sameproblem as u.... i only closed getright which i had installed and it worked fine Worried hmm another idea is not ciming to mind right now Worried

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2. February 2006 - 12:10
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i had this problem, when there was a pb update, the new pb-update feeled disturbed with old graphic-drivers.

i installed new drivers, and it worked again (this is now arround 1 year ago)

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2. February 2006 - 12:22
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Mech if it worked before it must be something you have changed since then. There are two possibilities. 1-st hardware, 2-nd software.
Maybe you replaced some parts of pc since then. If not then it must have something to do with installing or uninstalling some progs. Try to remeber what you installed or uninstalled (and accidentaly removed some files which somehow interfere with pb) and experiment with this.

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