rena leaving topic
I am very impressed by how many people from all corners express "now" their opinion. The same people who otherwise have no public opinion and give a damn about the community care usually.
im actually one of them, but this is a case i can no longer keep my mouth shut.
imo its highly unfair to end cooperation with rena by ban him even if its temp ban. Rena did much work for community: great rank system based on sql with great algorithm and site where everybody can check in easy way stats ect. i wonder will some1 able to create smth like clan rank. He made few events like masters cups, national cup, davis cup. He helped in hard situation with last tdm league.
I dont like renas talking and i dont always agree with him but it doesnt change fact i have respect to his work what he did and i think everybody else should has some respect for everything what he did. Ocf u can h8 him or smth but person like term has to put in first position interest of e+ community inside his and his m8 feeling. I think today some1 put own interest higher than community.
exactly my opinion.
as one of the persons that have only got very few information i must state that it is really annoying and strange that the moderation team is not willing to give us further information. it is clear that rena was a person that did not stand back if somebody questioned his authority or his decisions, but still (as flex and many others mentioned) he did so many great things for this community, that it would be completely wrong to end this cooperation this way.
to bring a very radical, much bigger and provocating example: this is like september 11th. the US government did not give any (or very few, most of them not on purpose) information about the attack, how it happened, if it was possible, if there were evidences who really planned them, and so on. until today there are many questions open and still, the government does not give any further information.
as one member of the masses the decisions the admins/mods took to me are very, very ridiculous. "we will not post any further"; "we will not lock the topic to show you how it would be without admins" and so on are really annoying. its like "dont ask me and if you will am gonna show you my strength and clash you against the wall with my 4 big brothers, you dont stand a chance".
its not meant mean or offensive but this is how it looks to me. why cant you tell us what is up? if there were "several reasons" why cant you at least mention one big argument? or one of the key-situations?
i know im saying the things that are written over 7 pages now again, but i want you to know im interested, and if anybody of you got information that might make me see the point, PM me please, i really wanna get whats up here.
This is not good!
IZ is joining HQ, FLEX, DEKY, PURG, 1337w4r3z and some others coz this is too confusing!
Just tell. But then again, that could also be kind of unfair to the person in question since he cant reply...
@Des & Mow: Me three!
i dont like rena, but i respect him for that he did for e+ community and mod growing. as you all i want also hear real reason why rena was banned. i see only 1 reason why nobody mods or term, dont write real reasons, they scaried that they done. i guess rena was banned only cos he didnt agree with term or somebody from mods..
Mods, term give us real reason why rena was banned, or this mod will die soon...
This is not good!
IZ is joining HQ, FLEX, DEKY, PURG, 1337w4r3z and some others coz this is too confusing!
Just tell. But then again, that could also be kind of unfair to the person in question since he cant reply...@Des & Mow: Me three!
Oska joining too.
Rena did a lot of great job, things like Flex said and much more, he helped me few times when I was noob and my clan was fresh and we didn't know what's going on here. He got a lot of my respect and i think banning him is really unfair.
there is possible watch how slowly this mod goes to crap :!:
there is possible watch how slowly this mod goes to crap :!:
it isnt the end of the worls ._.
Omg please stop all this second guessing and flaming, I am sure the ban was justified. It is really imo not our business, Rena was a mod and was dealt with by another mod. Term has allways been fair inmo and Mad is doing a fine job, leave the mods alone.
Rena has been very constructive for eplus with his newspapers and interviews and the clan rankings, I respect Rena and like everyone we all have bad times and good times.
The mods are not obliged to tell all why rena has a temporary ban, its an internal issue.
Please stop being so judgemental and leave this be.
Peace
Regards
Omg please stop all this second guessing and flaming, I am sure the ban was justified. It is really imo not our business, Rena was a mod and was dealt with by another mod. Term has allways been fair inmo and Mad is doing a fine job, leave the mods alone.
Rena has been very constructive for eplus with his newspapers and interviews and the clan rankings, I respect Rena and like everyone we all have bad times and good times.
The mods are not obliged to tell all why rena has a temporary ban, its an internal issue.
Please stop being so judgemental and leave this be.
Peace
Regards
its our bisiness until we are playing there and we are part of this community. Imo admins for players not vice versa cuz wihout people admins and mods cant exist same like this mod.
Totally agree with Flex...
Omg so many ppl got histerical.
First: Looking back on some Rena "performances" in the past u can actually by your own discover that he is - lets say it unstable. Also I remind u that its not first time he is leaving e+ and clan ranking. Its quite obvious he did his drama once more - and please - do not say he did not exaggerate things up (again Orange newspapers) to the limits of absurd once in a while. U can as well as saying that The Mod team acted due to personal dislikes - suspect that things went really serious (remeber server banning issue). I also recall U its a temporary ban - wich by means of logic can be interpreted as he was kinda given a chance to re-think some things. And believe me - Rena is not a person that listents to what other ppl has to say - he cant be convinced, he cant even state a real arguments to support his thesis. So maybe slamming him with something harder could be a good idea. As far as I understood its also him who resigned from leading clan rank - by himself. After that the ban happened.
Second: I also doubt The Mod team are idiots. And one would probably be an idiot if he would expose himself to certain accusations of overuse of his power.
Third: What I wrote above are just hypothesis as - every single post in this topic. And sooner or later things will be exposed - so pls - dont call a rebellion, end of mod, and that crap as in the end RENA != to the mod. Mod is U. Sure - he did great job with ranking - no one can deny that (however me personally doesnt give a crap bout ranking itself) - but thats not a reason for special attention, or anything like that.
Forth: Plz - also don't sell me that cheap crap bout how bad democracy and freedom of speech works here - couse Im on of the most agressive posters around - and so far had no single ban, yellow card or anything like that. U should also see how some other forums look like - no even close to freaking democracy there - I assure u.
So just wait a lil - before such a final statements
regards
[edit] oops sry - I had one direct threat from Budman, and second one quite disguised one from ... ye ... Rena