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[MR.]MIRCWAR wrote:

My whole point is this - if you are endorsing these Icke theories you have to point out what's wrong with other theories, such as the evolution, Christianity or why not zen-buddhism.

Why would i point out something that has been extremly well pointed out in the zeitgeist movies? Because ppl are too lazy to watch it? No thx, i must save my energy for other things atm (im starting a sect in real life...). Sure I can tell u that humans/homo sapiens were not created by God and that first ppl werent Adam and Eve but will u beelieve me? No, u wont. The whole point is that u discover this yourself, inves your evergy into researching different resources and find out for yourself. There are always 2 sides of the story. In this case, i beelieve more the other side which Icke and many others are talking about. To me this versions makes alot more sense than the bible version and i dont have to prove anything to u, its your choice to beelieve what u want.

Nor do I wish to "convince" anyone in anything, or claim anything that is not backed up with proof. Im just saying that i dont buy the "we evolved from apes" theory nor do i buy the religion crap. Sorry. If u do, thats your problem and im fine with it.

I do beelieve that the few control the many with the moto "divide and conquer", that religion and languages were created to separate humans from one another, havent u seen how many wars have been fought over religion in the past, how many ppl got killed, how many ppl entered SECTS and "jumped for jesus" from the edge of the cliff? How many ppl got murdered "in the name of the lord"?? And in the end, it all comes down to the same beeliefs? Its stupid, and thats my opinion, border between icke and a sect is blurry? Well then i need new glasses too because the border between religion and sects is to me blurry as hell too.

and u kraster can GTFO with your wishes because there is something called freedom of speech and right to an opinion my friend, and we all have that right. If u dont like it, fine, just dont tell me what to say or not to say. Because i will crap all over you. Kapisch?

This one is just for u... HF

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o

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And can u show me proof that Jesus christ was walking on earth and performing miracles? Just dont say the bible pls.

Haven't watched the movie and will not either as i think it's a waste of time(as many others showed that were), but Ratz please stop talking nonsense about Jesus, ok? Go with ur fucked up sect somewhere else if u say u dont want to promote it . Me for one im not interested and by trying to manipulate others by giving contraexamples of why our religion is bad it just shows how lame this whole situation is .

And dont even try to convince me, k? As long as im not saying anything about ur "thing/sect/or whatever" or any other, please don't touch my religion (Christianity). Hope u understood me clearly . Bye ! Don't even dare to reply to my comment, as religion is the only thing i believe in now and nothing else ! Winking

Well Kraster, you just backed Icke with your way of thinking and attitude "Nobody should say nothing bad about my religion or he should be shot.". Icke clearly says that religion is there to divide people and it is one of main causes for many wars, historic or present. In your eyes Kraster nobody should say nothing against your religion but should and it is encouraged to say everything and mock other religions. That is problem, because people should be united not divided just because of something like religion which does not need to hold more water than any stories Icke is giving you to reconsider and think about. Nobody forces you to stop being who you are, or to abandon your religion and join a cult. Just think about things more realistic and just THINK. You can just listen what guy has to say and not even take it seriously, that is your right, but please try not to get offended, it is against your religious beliefs to attack anyone because of anything, you remember to turn another cheek or that is just facade, for others to control you, or you never even wanted to read whole bible. I really don't know that. If you are true christian as you say you wouldn't even reply or you are just another brainwashed religious fanatic? Are you?! Everybody really calls himself christian or whatever he is, but there aren't many really living by rules they praise so much and rather act like puppets when time comes to attack and destroy in the name of their religion. Why is that? Why do people who believe in something so pure can become so cruel when time comes? Why hate other people just and think they are less worthy just because they believe in something else, "but same"? Tell me that? Not to mention there is few who even tried to read what they praise about.

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Im just saying that i dont buy the "we evolved from apes" theory

LOL EVERYONE KNOWS WE EVOLVED FROM LIZARDS

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Lol ratz, 20% sale on the Divine Truth, sign nao to enter?

i was christened but i do not feel the need to stress my religion. Nor do i feel offended by people criticise the faith which i accepted when i was 2 years old (lololol). Or particularly believe in how real the whole jesus thing is. Guess that makes me somewhat of an atheist. (you wont believe how many arguments the average cab driver at night on the way home from club can give you to try join their religion when they find out - happened 3 times at least Tongue ) but i still accept some of these stories and do not feel the need to shit on ppl for what they believe it. Beliefs are a personal thing and should be tailored by a person for themselves, simply focusing on their experiences, their knowledge and their feelings. Its the only way cos instead of just blindly accepting something as truth and feel too personal about it no matter what it is (going on to message 2)

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(sorry phone is limited to about 1000 characters) so truth be told, im atheist with certain aspects of few other religions and even some common sense rules and moral obligations brought in. I dont like to shit on peoples religions and am way past the "jesus is a cunt and it dont even matter cos secret bankers society is making death camps for us all!!!1" stage and i simply respect religions for what they are, a bunch of stories that have been created to make ppl feel better. And try to live a fun life and try to achieve stuff and be respectful to people in the process. Good luck with that sect thing if that is what seems to give you personal closure. Just remember and try to establish that there is a thin line between "freedom of opinion" and what some people refer to as "the obscure"

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First of all hi Km . You totally misunderstood my post. I havent said i have something against other religions nor of this, thats why i havent even replied till Ratz did it . I was just offened of what ive quote above. I mean its ok for me to be on other side, different then me, afterall we are not all the same and thats good(diversity) but please keep it for you, dont come and talk bs about my religion .

I mean i understand why some believe in other things than i do, everybody gots it reasons for doing it, but Im offenced when some1 speaks bs about my thing. Mind your own thing, promote it as u do now, its logical to do it, but dont insult others religion cause they arent in this thing. Maybe its not much what he said but i felt offended and think Im not the only one around Winking

/edit : why u got angry Ratz ? Ur small penis cant handle the situation ? No wonder u got banned Winking

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First of all hi Km . You totally misunderstood my post. I havent said i have something against other religions nor of this, thats why i havent even replied till Ratz did it . I was just offened of what ive quote above. I mean its ok for me to be on other side, different then me, afterall we are not all the same and thats good(diversity) but please keep it for you, dont come and talk bs about my religion .

I mean i understand why some believe in other things than i do, everybody gots it reasons for doing it, but Im offenced when some1 speaks bs about my thing. Mind your own thing, promote it as u do now, its logical to do it, but dont insult others religion cause they arent in this thing. Maybe its not much what he said but i felt offended and think Im not the only one around Winking

/edit : why u got angry Ratz ? Ur small penis cant handle the situation ? No wonder u got banned Winking

Hi there Kraster Winking
It is ok, I do accept people for what they are, but don't just accuse someone in is in sect just out of nowhere. You were given interesting link to watch/read and give your own opinion on it, why would you tell him he is part of some obscure sect. You shouldn't do that. If you don't like it, move on or be part of discussion.

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Zeitgeist makes a few fine points, and at least tries to makes sense. It's saturated with paranoic overtones, and should be taken with a pinch of salt, but it does what it's supposed to do good - make one think.

That Icke guy, is, either insane, or trying to (successfully, it would seem) run a business and earn money. Maybe both. Why are you even linking the two? p_p

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@km : if u would pay more attention, I've said i HAVENT watched any movie of him yet, ive just took the term of sect cause saw the above used it(as u can see ive called it after "thing" as i dunno whats about). And sect aint a bad word imo so cant see the reason to be offended by it Surprise

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WE ALL ARE IN THE SEEK OF TRUTH.

the road we are walking to go to is reach in variety, what its important to have present all the time to avoid the longest way to the truth its :

-U are not ur mind, ur mind its another tool for help u in that road. like a hand, nouse, etc. its just another more tool to help u.

-Ur mind produce ideas and create concepts after it. The mind its just one part of the brain in fact. dont confuse brain with mind.

This is IMPORTANT to have clear, u are not ur mind or and idea produced from ur mind, u are more than just that, there are many peoples and way of lives living in this world who exist and who dont have mind.

We are learning to use our mind to materialice the true in this wolrd, so as we are just learning to use this tool, we have been making many errors in the proces to interpret the truth we perceive.

If we have clear that then we can find the diference betewn :

religion and God for example.

God its true
Religion is the interpretation that the human mind has given for their perception of truth-God .

So in the basis all the religions are true, but after passing that truth for a young human mind, we got religion, and ofc with many mistakes.

We have misunderstood the truth and have become an illusion in which we live.

Now after that and having sooo present the fact that U are not your mind, let bring to you without any guilty feeling the oportunity to correct that erros, normal errors in a young humanity mind. Let your feelings flow and dont feel your self guilty just try to not get catched again in the lie of the mind. from now we must use our mind as a tool, having clear that our mind was made to serve us, all the past time we have been serving to our mind.

This is the only change needed NOW.
This will give us the new consciousness.
Greetings

We has been felling ourself like a drop of water out of the ocean, smalls, weak, etc.
What if we introduce the drop into the ocean?
From that perspective the drop do not feel itself anymore small or weak ... Can u feel what it means?
http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=7590772592900521369&hl=es