want to standardize server configs?

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As far as I can remember switchtime was always around -1 ...then 1.03 was replaced and switchtime was adjustable, this helped stop some of the scripters. The problem was for a few weeks it was not set, so weapons had an almost instant fire and switchtime, and this felt good to people and hey got used to it. But ultimately leads to spam filled maps with less aiming and more flooding corners etc with mixed gunfire.

So after that period having the switch set as it was/should be it feels slow. its not its just as it was....or something like that.

Sorry for the boring recap for all those that more than know this Happy

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I dont like 1on1 on plus.cfg because there is not possible GL sliding.

Combination of weaponswitch -1 and friendly fire sounds brutal Big grin

Well, i see that we have more than 50 percent that voted yes. It true that voted only few ppl but its reason that we can do next step - make big poll (ankete). And on the results of this huge poll (ankete) we can make a universal cfg for cw´s.

Problem with public servers is in one and i think that basic thing. All public servers cant use the same config. It will kill the game. About it is e+. You can find server which ideal config for you (only for example 2!S FR with plus.cfg) and after that you often play on this server. But we cant do all servers the same. Power of universal server config is in the same game rules for all matches (CW, FW). So dont be afraid that it will kill the game Arrow

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I personaly freakin hate the Plus config. I haven't had the luxury of playing on a BRO config so I don't know how it feels. I do like the NWC config tho. I'd like the oportunity to play on a server with a BRO config so I can get a feel of it.
A standard config for CW is a good idea. I can get used to the slow rail recharge times of the Plus config but I need the grenades to fire when I try to move with them instead of sitting there like a boob for 2.5 seconds waiting for them to explode so I can move and then have to wait another 2.5 seconds before I can fire my rail after switching back. It causes one to get shot. It might be that if I were to smoke a big fat joint and then play the Plus config might feel ok.
But I don't do that so its slow as molassas and a handicap for me.
The Plus config does not cut down on spam as it was intended, it actually makes rocket and bfg spamming easier for those that do it. They don't have to worry as much about someone with a rail shooting them while they spam doorways and corners. But that's my opinion from the times I've played and speced on servers that run it.
It doesn't matter what config you play on if you have spammers, they are going to spam and it is bad for everyone no matter what.
So why not make a rule that if during a CW someone spams they have to sit out. I can't say which config would be best, it may be that a combination of configs is a universal solution. Until I get the chance to play some of the others out there all I can say is "PLUS.CFG SUX..."

PS: At least with faster weapon times one can shoot the shit out of a spammer a lot easier.

PSS: Perhaps I should say "I PASSIONATELY DISLIKE THE PLUS.CFG"

PSSS: Oh, and did I say " I HATE THE PLUS CONFIG???"

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150ms are exacly 0.150 second !

so im wonder about what u do talk Happy

here u must use weapons wisley not just switch betwen them and spread the evil ']

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hate it or not, everybody has to have his own oppinion, but ur post is not based on facts. 2,5 secs? rofl.

anyway, plus does not small spam? I see 250 % more spam in deex server (which is quiet fun to play there sometimes) as on any server which has plus.cfg loaded. With some exceptions, every player in plus.cfg has 80-85 % of his kills with rail.

About nwc config i can say nothing bad, its the perfect ctf.cfg for me in e+.

I just wonder why i have always have 50+ frags and a 70 + score on deex server, when the config where i come from is so bad. I must add, i am just an average skilled player in europe.

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mow Q [EN] wrote:

hate it or not, everybody has to have his own oppinion, but ur post is not based on facts. 2,5 secs? rofl.

anyway, plus does not small spam? I see 250 % more spam in deex server (which is quiet fun to play there sometimes) as on any server which has plus.cfg loaded. With some exceptions, every player in plus.cfg has 80-85 % of his kills with rail.

About nwc config i can say nothing bad, its the perfect ctf.cfg for me in e+.

I just wonder why i have always have 50+ frags and a 70 + score on deex server, when the config where i come from is so bad. I must add, i am just an average skilled player in europe.

Egg-zactly.

@Dakini - Plus is a spammers config? ROTFL. The sheer force of spammage that is occuring on Deex's daily could flood a plus.cfg server for a year Happy Insane switch time, overpowered weapons, very fast projectiles... nah, i'll pass. And i don't understand what you say about the nades? They're not instant only in 1/1's. Every other gametype they explode as soon as they touch something. Tongue

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Yes I exagerated about the time, I was being a sarcastic smart ass. I was trying to point out the fact that those who move with the grenades need them to do their thing as soon as they need them to. NOT to use them to frag with. I don't use the grenades to kill, I use the rail and the shotgun. I use the BFG to move with as well but not often enough I can tell any difference in switch time for it. The slow rail recharge time I can deal with. But I want to move when I friggin want to move. Not have to wait an eternity (smart ass comment there) for the damned grenade to do what it is supposed to do.
Using weapons wisely isn't an issue for me. I don't use rocket to kill, I don't use grenade to kill I don't use plasma gun or mg or gauntlet at all. I use bfg to move with and rarely to kill with.
SEE MY POINT????
I WANT TO BE ABLE TO MOVE WHEN I WANT TO MOVE.
Oh, and I play on deex's rarely because I hate freeze so pointing out that config to me is pointless.
I like CTF and TDM and I play a lot of FFA. I'd play more TDM but the servers running it use the PLUS CONFIG so not many ppl play on them. I play mostly on GOD's or Brain Pan. There is spam there too but at least I can move when I need to. To top it off, everyone I've played with does not like the PLUS Config. I've not actually played with anyone that says, "I like this config".
Everyone I have played with agrees with me. IT SUX.

PS: Yes there is spammage on Plus config. The reason it is easier for the rocket and bfg spammers is they dont have to worry as much about getting railed because the rail recharge time is so slow. Ergo, they spam the shit out of door ways and around corners with rocket and bfg.

PSS: It is a simple fact that if you change a server's config, all you do is force ppl to change their tactics and spammers are usually the first to adapt.
Some one please send me a copy of a BRO config so I can try it out. I'd love to find an alternative to the plus config that is acceptable to those few who seem to dictate which config is standard for the many who dislike it that are to lazy or just don't want, to voice thier opinions.

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First thing, get rail skill and kill the guy with one shot the second you see him and not with 6 shots.
Second thing, in all my times i've never had trouble moving around cause of high reload. Maybe consider using rockets to move around a bit.
Third thing, you mentioned two servers. No offense but comparing plus cfg spam with those servers you mentioned nearly made me fall off my chair.

Go on 2!sweet freeze or Mr freeze when it's late in the evening in europe. Spec for a few minutes to see how it's played :roll:

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Bahh, it is pointless.

I'm not talking about spam. I'm talking about moving. I'm not talking about rail skill, I'm talking about moving.

Oh, did I say I'm talking about moving??

Thanks for the dig at my rail skills Tartaros. Considering you haven't seen me play. I average over 30 percent with rail which is a little better than 6 shots per kill and not bad for an old woman like me. (blow rasberry here)

Unfortunately, Late evening in europe for me is while I'm still at work early afternoon. Watching and playing are two different things.

Oh, did I say I'm talking about moving??

Simple fact, I hate the plus config, you don't. You won't convince me it is good and I am not going to be able to convince you it sux.

And so far it seems, Europeans are the ones that like this config. Every player that is over here that I have spoken with passionately dislikes it.

We have a difference of opinion and this thread is pointless for me but at least I got to vent some of my frustration.

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yeah it is ']

did im said stm about killing ?

hell no, im sayed only that u need to w8 0.15/sec to use weapon after switch, and its not loong...