Same experience. I meet lot of gamers who always played with old settings, and ask me when it will be turned back like it was. MG, LG and GL damages can be changed, but please not switchtime. And players used to 1.30 can stay in 1.30.

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I dont understand why do u want a new excessive here when it died..why? ITS EXCESSIVE +! if its stay it will be a new excessive.

LoL... Excessive + is made out of excessive.
And if you play it with an excessive.cfg for example excessive5.cfg (with or without old switchtime doesnt matter) then you play EXCESSIVE!
It is the same! Same idea! Same gamestyle! Already even nearly same community!
You CANT share E+ and Excessive. At least not as long as you play an excessive.cfg!

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to those players who came from excessive and want this-->go back to play excessive in 1.30....

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And players used to 1.30 can stay in 1.30.

THOSE players are already half of the excessive based E+ community!
Before THOSE players came there were just X and GMC (which was nearly dead already) in E+ which played excessive configs.
All the other clans established after the excessive players came!
The clans DFE, EK+, EN, GoN, A, FUC and =3= wouldnt be in E+ if THOSE players would not move up!
ALL the jumps the ctf players in E+ have, they have from THOSE players! From NOONE else!
Pls think about what THOSE players did and do for E+ BEFORE you blame THOSE players!

THOSE players just said that they like the new weaponswitch. Like you said that you dont like it.
You blame THOSE players for the new weaponswitch.
But they just brought up their opinion and didnt change it!
And THOSE players also didnt cry like THAT about your old weaponswitch!
They integrated for a future of excessive. And they just brought up, that they NORMALLY prefer the new weaponswitch.

Thx Kb but i knew that, i know it Based on Mr. Pants' Excessive Overkill.. But it isnt same for me. When i played 1.30 a bit it was like an other mod for me... :roll:

About the other part of ur post. Its true that 1.30 players brought more life into 1.32. I agree with it. I never blame any 1.30 players. I told if they want a new excessive then go back to 1.30 and build it up again. Shouldnt make a new excessive in 1.32 cause it wouldnt be e+ anymore. Am i crying..dont think so..like u i told my opinion about it. and dont wanna try to tell me that those players who came from 1.30 , this switch was hard to use it..i talked some 1.30 player today and they told it wasnt....and i know players from 1.16 and 1.30 who wanna bakc the old one.
So peace there

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Thx Kb but i knew that, i know it Based on Mr. Pants' Excessive Overkill.. But it isnt same for me. When i played 1.30 a bit it was like an other mod for me... :roll:

That is mainly because of the e+ unlagged and the way of hitting someone.
With this EVERYONE can easily handle mg and lg.
In 1.30 you had really to train for it.
I think that is the main reason why it felt so different to you.

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I never blame any 1.30 players. I told if they want a new excessive then go back to 1.30 and build it up again.

Well, to me it sounded like you give all fault of the new switchtime to 1.30 players.
The mean guys who want to destroy the game

And E+ with excessive.cfgs IS a rebuild of Excessive... just to inform you

My vote: AGAINST NEW CFG. I like the old e5.cfg

COMMENTS

1. Im not going to argue with anyone here who likes the new cfg. Everyone has his/her opinion and i respect that.

2. Im 27, been playin games like this (doom, q1, q2 etc) since i was a teenager. Been playing excessive for more than 5 years now. When i first downloaded the e+ file i was impressed by the way it changed weapons. this is was my main complain in Pants so i decided to play e+ permanently and never go back to Pants again (of course there are all these other features that make it a real mod - which Pants isnt). If u change this, then im sorry u spoil what makes e+ this fun mod everyone likes.

3. There is an argument that players from Pants cant get used to the e+ weapon switch style. We have discussed this extensively in the EK+ Forum. Well, i think these pople are only a small minority compared to the vast community that plays e+ everyday as it is. It is a fact that e+ created a community of its own and if you change their cfg they will leave the official e+ servers. All this for what?? for a few ppl who refuse to move on to e+ unless they get it to look like Pants!! Well im sorry this makes no sense to me.. im sure the first couple of hours might be frustrating for those who still havent played anough e+ and are used to pants BUT this clearly a matter of numbers and they are only a few.

4. The movement argument: I also agree with those who posted that what makes e5.cfg attractive is your ability to move fast while changing weapons and fragging on the way. This obviously is impossible with slow weapon change.

5. The using weapons wisely argument: I really dont understand this.. in pants u have to use weapons wisely but the same applies in e+ as it was. its only the fighting style that changes: in pants, u always have bfg on, u do some slides, some nade jumps etc and have to be careful about switching to lg or whatever because u might get killed if the situation is not good for it. in e+, u have the freedom to choose between more fighting styles. u dont have to stick with the old pants routine (nades+bfg) that everyone uses for years. but that doesnt mean that u dont get killed if u use an inappropriate weapon!! U have to be good with your weapons and u survive, as it is in pants. its just different game and requires different skills. Personally, i find slow speed much easier. im used to BFG (slides etc) so it will be no prob for me to win. but the game wont be fun anymore.

6. The spamming argument: many ppl believe that mg/lg use is bad for the game because it gives every noob the chance to win. hhhhmm.. i wonder do we want all people to use bfg all the time?? whats the point in this?? u may as well disable all weapons and play with gauntlet only! the thing is that people choose to play e+ because its fun and with bfg only its no fun for noobs or skilled players. i would agree to some more bfg damage (or lowering lg/mg damage) but slow weapon switch is not the way to make the game enjoyable.
At any rate, people who want to spam some weapon, will do it anyway!! what on earth will slow weapon change change in respect of this?? u only influence badly good players by takin away their available moves that include fast changes between weapons. U DONT INFLUENCE NOOBS. U just give them an advantage against good players. a skilled player can have many fast weapon moves while the noob just puts on a weapon and spams it around the map. Which one is better??

FINALLY: I would like to let u kno that if u keep this new cfg on I will leave the e+ servers for good. I have spent more time than anyone on the FFA serv (just look at my profile on the Stats) cuz i liked it they way it was..

Im almost sure that EK+ Clan will withdraw from the servers and many other clans and good individual players, ive talked to, will do the same

Sorry for the long post. its my first and probably last one..