Where to start cheating?

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20. September 2010 - 22:35
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Hi,
as i begin playing q3 e+ i dont bind my weapons. after some days i read how to bind them in my conf. file. then i see a screenshot with green bodies and i think: "fuck man, they see me faster as i can see them!" i add this in my config too. this was in the beginning.

after 3-4 years of gaming i haer that ppl use explosionpacks/drawnames1/soundpacks/soundconfigs/whatever. now my question is: what is cheating?
is using a lowexplosionpack a cheat?
why e+2.0 dont have drawnames anymore?
who to use soundpacks/configs and is it allowed?

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21. September 2010 - 6:55
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Re: Where to start cheating?

sound packs and all of this is a detectable be pure and kick you from server, so this is a cheat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAjMBxQhTGs

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21. September 2010 - 0:27
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Re: Where to start cheating?

you can start cheating in your girlfriends house with her mom/dad (whatever you're into)!

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21. September 2010 - 18:50
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Re: Where to start cheating?

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21. September 2010 - 4:39
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Re: Where to start cheating?

cheating is everything you can't do on PB

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21. September 2010 - 7:05
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Re: Where to start cheating?
EmiR wrote:

why e+2.0 dont have drawnames anymore?

Because names were drawn above fog

And everything else that is beyond the standard cvar ranges is cheating against people that do not have those extensions including the mod itself/

Cheating is relative term though. If we build the game where everyone has an autoshooting weapon, then using it will not be treated as cheating. Likewise if we go to a server where everyone uses enemycolors then we come into fair play too. But if we go to a server where the most does not use colors/names/etc but we do, then we are cheaters there.

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21. September 2010 - 7:14
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Re: Where to start cheating?

so, having knowledge about cvars and using this cvars given my the game or mod is cheating, mmk. furthermore this would mean, beeing better in aiming and moving than others is cheating, too.

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21. September 2010 - 8:02
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Well, following your words we should treat any cheat as a level up, so we should not ban cheaters but we should install same cheats.

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21. September 2010 - 8:09
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following to ur words i cheat because of using xp_enemycolours on for example "hiszy-server"

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21. September 2010 - 8:27
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Re: Where to start cheating?

heh. Maps were designed to have bright and dark places where your enemy is more and less visible. So by using xp_enemycolors you bypass that map idea (while others are trying to use it) and thus you cheat everywhere, not only on 'hiszy-server'. But as I told before it is relative to what others are using. I dunno what are the players on 'hiszy-server'...

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21. September 2010 - 10:09
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Re: Where to start cheating?

cheating means having an advantage over the others (that are considered normal).. like a funny example: "having a car in XIII-th century its cheating".

But to find yourself that you cheat you must know what is "normal" and what is not .. some ppl play q3 with cheats without realizing:
For example: drawNames 1 had a "issue" that you could see a player near a door before he is "really" visible !?!

I think about this normal and cheat thing .. there is like a "normality cloud" .. where we add things using our "morality-fairplay" code. For example in our community .. we agreed on what is right and what is wrong .. ppl start using xp_enemymodel/colors since they join a clan and ppl are fortold what to do to get better.
however there are glitches in the system / issues from q3 engine / and a fairplay rule would say not to use them because they are in fact "cheats" and it prohibits their design nature (which is .. not to be there in 1st place)
For example: if (lets just imagine) we would have a problem with a command from xp that is creating some wallhack advantage .. ofc you as a smart person would not use it .. this glitch should be considerd a "cheat" .. and probably would be resolved in the next e+ version.

So hmm maybe there are some principles on how to detect what is right or what is wrong ? or is it in our nature to chose only what is wrong ? if so then => kick/ban Tongue
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soundpacks was never alowed because its unpure content and you will be kicked for "unpure pk3 files". in order to be pure with those soundpacks, a copy of those must be on the server also but i doubt owners will have that on their server (if you will be able to join the pure server and play, ppl that were pure will need those packs too => "lose many for the sake of 1" => bad owner? )
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