Which gametype should be in the next league?

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hmm are you sure you guys have played freeze? e+ freeze, the one on the mr server right now?.... Happy slow ? tedious ?

ok, its slow cause... you aren’t running round 100 percent of the game,
and you have to rely of the skill and ingenuity of your team.....
we ARE talking about team play remeber here....

tdm is pretty much ffa but you only shoot half the people.....where is the team skill....? apart from finding good camp spots

tedious... when you have most or all of your team to unfreeze...and you have 3 frozen people in one place....and you have to unfreeze them while avoiding fire for 2 of the opposing team...and you do it and win the frag....

..or you are surrounded by 4 or 5 members of the other team and you frag all of them because you know to get fragged means either you are frozen. or worse you are the last in your team and you would loose the frag, (hmm perhaps that bit should be in the slow section Laughing....while you team is willing you on.....

surely its what taemplay is all about

freeze requires the most thought, cunning and team reliance of all the game types (quake cooking sim..not withstanding)

its a true team game, and for all the glory hounds you can aim to be top top fragger as well

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freeze requires the most thought, cunning and team reliance of all the game types (quake cooking sim..not withstanding)

its a true team game, and for all the glory hounds you can aim to be top top fragger as well

You are kidding right?

RTF requires a lot more cunning and thought than freeze. Freeze has two options. And yeah, I played a lot of freeze, even before it came to e+. I also played a lot of CTF in both Q1 and Q3 e+ and e+ RTF. And so far, in my opinion, the gametype that requires most teamwork is RTF and its not even a close call with Freeze.

Noone is arguing that TDM requires less teamwork than freeze, but it is not FFA where you shoot half the people. If you watch the demos between genx and FRV from last league we played 2 matches on dm14. We (me :oops: ) had come up with a great tactics for that map that we tried on the first match of dm14 and lost horribly. We changed tactics for second time around and won that one with almost as much as we lost the first one. TDM requires good map knowledge (as in you know what maps you play well in) as well as a good tactic. (like tactical deployment of troops, or as some people called it, spawnfragging...)

Yeah, Freeze has, when it comes to teamplay the same requirements that teamplay in TDM with the extra addition of the freezepart. Freeze IS a gametype that requires a lot of teamwork and tactics but well.. chess requires a lot of tactics too but it still aint much speed and action in it.

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this might annoy you guys but i have to say it ...

pheonix:
first of all, its interersting to see you contradict yourself, let me get this straight. you want more action quicker game ? and then you want Bro9 cfg, which has slower reloading time, recently removed multi-jump, and self inflicted damage, which makes the game much slower. i agree with you on that it is a interesting cfg which is a change in the usuall instant rail cfgs. though with no bfg-jump, no multi-jump and slow reloading makes it less action filled and also makes the maps harder to make use of. make up your mind.

also, your math skills seems to be abit rusty, most ppl who done some math knows that variables like x and y is toltaly diffrent unless its written clearly that x=y. since thats a rule in maths e+ freeze (x) and cs (y) cant equall to the same thing, even the variable "booring" (z) is a varible, which obviously makes it variable. so refresh your maths and reconsider. since e+ is q3 and cs is hl its even more varibles which makes it a very naive calculation. so stop that BS. no hard feelings though, its your opinion, so w/e.

SuperBo:
fresh up on your language skills ... its quite clear that short.peaker is refering to midget-minded as ppl with small minds, small-minded, and as far as i know the word midget comes from a similar word that means small or exeptionaly small growth. so thats a weak argument and a lame attempt to pick a fight, you know very well that short.peaker doesnt mean that you have smaller brains etc. he probably meant that you gotta open up and try this thing.

iam fine with TDM, though i would like to try freeze.

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On a sidenote, when I first played freeze it wasnt in e+, and freeze in e+ suffers from the instagib rail. In regular freeze its a fight to freeze someone and spawnkills are less likelly to ruin the gametype. This means you get to play at least a little more before you are frozen and I think freeze in e+ would be more fun with bro9 settings.

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Opinion does indeed seem divided...perhaps the flag based games do require most in terms of true thought processes....and all out tactics......

there are players here your self included who have far superior knowledge of flag based games....and for sure genx seem to have the most players that are interested in this game type....maybe that’s cause you guys played the longest and/or perhaps its the game type you are most skilled in (just referring to freeze and flag games)....

Perhaps RTF is too tactical then for a league of players who on the whole don’t play or have nervier played RTF.....

so lets omit RTF from the equation as im sure it isn’t really on the cards for this upcoming league....

surely all things considered freeze is the best middle ground...
TDM, done in last league....RTF....not enough players can play it well enough.....

…ok I think I am starting to repeat mysel and labour the point... and im not sure anymore if this has become about our oppions of what we think is ths best game type..or what will be the best for the upcomming league

and just to add confusion…this was the original official post/poll…before is got of topic somewhat Happy

http://forums.excessiveplus.net/viewtopic.php?t=1038

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I think freeze in e+ would be more fun with bro9 settings.

hmm... Idea.....ill get back on that one.... only tried them once...it seems to slow the game down from what i remember, and if a complaint about freeze is thats its slow ....would that help?

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Erm, my language skillsare quite fine thankyou Happy And as to ph3 contradicting himself...

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its quite clear that short.peaker is refering to midget-minded as ppl with small minds, small-minded, and as far as i know the word midget comes from a similar word that means small or exeptionaly small growth.

Explaining that midget means small...

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you know very well that short.peaker doesnt mean that you have smaller brains etc. he probably meant that you gotta open up and try this thing.

Explaining to me that when he says midget brain (or buying expansionpacks) does NOT mean I have a small brain/mind?

What frustrated me about short's posts is that he is using harsh words even if they might not be intentionally offensive against people just because they have another opinion than him. Lots of people would probably agree that it might be fun to play another gametype *if* they played the first league which far from everyone did. This other gametype beeing FREEZE is what some are against. As for me, I am just talking about what I feel about freeze, I am not even playing this league so please ignore my posts when it comes to choosing gametype for the league, but I would like to be able to express my opinion about a gametype without beeing called midget-brained (whatever he means by it) because my opinion differs from his.

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and then you want Bro9 cfg, which has slower reloading time, recently removed multi-jump, and self inflicted damage, which makes the game much slower.

BRO config TDM/FFA/RTF <faster than> BRO9 config TDM/FFA/RTF <faster than> Freeze gametype any config.

Me, I like action, but I am tired of instagib, its not much action beeing instagibbed on respawn, and the reload time takes away lamers who use railswitch too.

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Erm, my language skillsare quite fine thankyou Happy And as to ph3 contradicting himself...

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its quite clear that short.peaker is refering to midget-minded as ppl with small minds, small-minded, and as far as i know the word midget comes from a similar word that means small or exeptionaly small growth.

Explaining that midget means small...

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you know very well that short.peaker doesnt mean that you have smaller brains etc. he probably meant that you gotta open up and try this thing.

Explaining to me that when he says midget brain (or buying expansionpacks) does NOT mean I have a small brain/mind?

What frustrated me about short's posts is that he is using harsh words even if they might not be intentionally offensive against people just because they have another opinion than him. Lots of people would probably agree that it might be fun to play another gametype *if* they played the first league which far from everyone did. This other gametype beeing FREEZE is what some are against. As for me, I am just talking about what I feel about freeze, I am not even playing this league so please ignore my posts when it comes to choosing gametype for the league, but I would like to be able to express my opinion about a gametype without beeing called midget-brained (whatever he means by it) because my opinion differs from his.

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and then you want Bro9 cfg, which has slower reloading time, recently removed multi-jump, and self inflicted damage, which makes the game much slower.

BRO config TDM/FFA/RTF <faster than> BRO9 config TDM/FFA/RTF <faster than> Freeze gametype any config.

Me, I like action, but I am tired of instagib, its not much action beeing instagibbed on respawn, and the reload time takes away lamers who use railswitch too.

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Bout bro9 cfg - When I mean slow gameplay I mean gameplay in wich half of players camps and hides, so weaker weapons do not equal slower game unless they are used in freeze for example. And as u were bitching about teamplay and tactics - well bro9 cfg makes a sense in teams as in it armor and ammo becomes more important. Dunno who invented this cfg but I must say its well balanced and good work.

An no that was not math - just rhetoric. I suppose U never heard of sophismats? (gr. sóphisma, sophísmatos) .... Dunno how is it called in english but well I suppose it wouldnt clear things up anyway. Gee ... u r some kind of freeze fanatic or what? Repeat the mantra: Freeze freeze Freeze .... mimimimi ... sweet

Well ... about what wax said - no not only older clans like genx are voting for tdm. Yesterday I talked with goq-trouble. Well he wants tdm as well. Same for DRT clan. As I see mainly (but not only) swedish clans want freeze ... I suppose its cose of colder climate they got there Winking And btw - in genx there are some players that would probably more play freeze than tdm.