why i am a cheater... ???

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BBCmicro wrote:

mow Q [EN] wrote:
i never said he is cheating, i said his lg is strange, it's killing instantly permanent. i just suspected him, never said he is.

anyway, u dont know the half of EN members, so, relate it to the persons, not to the clan, even u are banned because edy wants so.

I rasied the same sort of question a little time a go and was told I was wrong... However, I have observed the same as you and not just with him but others too. One touch and you're dead - no wounding first! Anyone who says there is no way to speed up the LG etc is wrong since if you get a speed power-up everything goes quicker and that includses the LG - so the game has that in it and it would not be that hard to fix it as a cheat.

But do cheats limit themselves to aimbots? What about simply making yourself harder to hit etc would they not be better and less obvious? I reckon there are all manner of cheats out there.

My view is that E+ has many cheating. It is so open to it - so it happens. Some people simply are that way inlcined. I played UT2004 instagib (mainly CTF and sniper) and never saw the E+ level of cheating there. Sadly, cheats have no concept of 'you lose if you cheat'. They have no honour, no self-respect. Lose and be a wom/man. They spoil an otherwise brilliant game.

And then comes the discussion about PunkBuster all over again.
Sure it doesn't catch all the cheats but when you make demos and keep sending them to PB they will eventually get a "work around" for it.
However the discussion to enable PB isn't what should be done in this thread nor any other. It's been tried before with seriously backfire.

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in this topic two things are important: cheaters and PB
ok, everybody want PB but why is EVOL SERVER 1v1 always empty???
there is Punkbuster on......
i don't understand it Thinking

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thats simple:

noobs are not intellegent enough to enter a cd key... (they dont even need a valid one)...
And just servers with noobs become full... thats why PB servers are empty...
And thats why the servers dont use PB....

Thats simply causality Winking

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the bigger problem is, good players never join a server as first.

our not pb servers get full with nubs, than the better ones joines, make a pb server, u have nobody who begin, expecting me yesterday on lemon server.

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Sorry for that post, but just now i have free time to read some topic in forum, i saw these messages in other topic.

mow Q [EN] wrote:

the funny thing is, even i get suspected to cheat, and i am just a avarege gamer at the moment (i promisse to improve my skill to beat owners asses)
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yeah, i did the same, i practiced a lot(2000 games in 5 months), and u know, now im banned Sad

EVOL.IZNOGOUD wrote:


I tried some excessive5.cfg on Excessive Plus! FFA today...
Kinda funny actually! Fragfest Happy
It can be played without using MG at all Cool

But its hopless, coz if u play with some luck u automatically gets blamed for cheating and get kicked by callvote

Same here Sad

W L C wrote:


just coz u own ppl, u r called a cheater... even when u show ur real name u wont hear fu*** SORRY ....

agreed

Oi!drt wrote:

.... but luck doesnt mean cheat

agreed

ppl cant understand some things.

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Just to clear things with cl_timeNudge.

When cl_timeNudge has a negative value (without unlagged), every entity, except players, is extrapolated earlier. Because those entities have all required information to be extrapolated, it will be all fine and accurate. Players on the other side will move only when the next snapshot arrives and that will happen in sv_fps intervals (they will move like with ex. 20 fps).

Now when xp_unlagged is enabled on the server and cl_timeNudge has a negative value, the player entities will be turned into extrapolating entities and will be extrapolated just like every other entity. There will be still extrapolation errors with high negative values but that will happen only client-side for the player who use the nudge.

Or simply:

Q: Does using cl_timeNudge make you look jerky to other players?

A: No, definitely not! As long as xp_unlagged is turned on. If the player is really jerky it has other reasons like packet loss etc. and will happen the same without cl_timeNudge.

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easy wrote:

A: No, definitely not! As long as xp_unlagged is turned on. If the player is really jerky it has other reasons like packet loss etc. and will happen the same without cl_timeNudge.

How can one tell if xp_unlagged is on?

And to continue on the matter. In 1.30 someone has good smooth ping, around 48 steady. His packets are 100, snaps are 100 and his rate is 25000 with a steady 125 fps.
He turns timenudge to some rediculous number and everyone in the server agrees that he looks jerky, harder to hit, laggy.
How come if timenudge doesn't make you jerky according to your statement? Is it the xp_unlagged that gets rid of the effect somehow?

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BBCmicro wrote:

mow Q [EN] wrote:
i never said he is cheating, i said his lg is strange, it's killing instantly permanent. i just suspected him, never said he is.

anyway, u dont know the half of EN members, so, relate it to the persons, not to the clan, even u are banned because edy wants so.

I rasied the same sort of question a little time a go and was told I was wrong... However, I have observed the same as you and not just with him but others too. One touch and you're dead - no wounding first! Anyone who says there is no way to speed up the LG etc is wrong since if you get a speed power-up everything goes quicker and that includses the LG - so the game has that in it and it would not be that hard to fix it as a cheat.

But do cheats limit themselves to aimbots? What about simply making yourself harder to hit etc would they not be better and less obvious? I reckon there are all manner of cheats out there.

My view is that E+ has many cheating. It is so open to it - so it happens. Some people simply are that way inlcined. I played UT2004 instagib (mainly CTF and sniper) and never saw the E+ level of cheating there. Sadly, cheats have no concept of 'you lose if you cheat'. They have no honour, no self-respect. Lose and be a wom/man. They spoil an otherwise brilliant game.

Even though i dont know u at all, heres what i think of that. I am pretty sure that he didnt kill someone with lg in 1 second EVERY TIME. You wanna know why he can kill that fast?
1. Someone else has already damaged him very badly and he can be killed with half a mg bullet
2. He first shoved a nice bfg up his ass and then finished the job with his lg in no-time (also knows as 'having brains and use them')

I am very proud of this, i can say since the moment i started quake i have never ever cheated. And still i can handle most of these people most of the time (u know itr suckas). So im not all that 'burn the world, it sucks'-person so i dont believe there are so many cheaters in here.

My solution (omg who cares) Nagyi, turn ur nudging off, promise to never use it again and all unban him! He just wants to play but cant, this is one of the greatest tortures in the world, not being able to play quake (and i can know it)

Peace,
Un4gi

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Unagi[EN] wrote:


My solution (omg who cares) Nagyi, turn ur nudging off, promise to never use it again and all unban him! He just wants to play but cant, this is one of the greatest tortures in the world, not being able to play quake (and i can know it)

Peace,
Un4gi

thnx una, but one thing - never use it again - it means the nudge or wh? cuz if the timenudge, its np for me to set it to 0, but if means wh, u need to know i never used and i never use in future, cuz its not fair game. i have an idea why think ppl i use wh.... but its my opinion.

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the idea that ur using wh is too ridiculous to talk about so i ment the timenudge Happy