Why is it Allowed?

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RONiN wrote:

it's a "feature" Winking

i actually use it to aim for specifically strong players in clustered areas, hopefully they can fix the wallhacking part of it for the next release...

yea, they do, u just can see teamnames in next release.

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I was suspicious of cheats long time ago on lem tryout, I was using it on q3tourney5 map with fog Happy

Some time ago I added to pbsv.cfg rule for drawnames to disallow it.

Its used for all servers where I got access.

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Hello
Personally for me, I very rarely see the name flash up on screen through wall etc and even when I do see it, it is only there for a split second.
I should imagine its the same for most other people.
Inmo to call it a cheat is ridiculous, I would feel VERY offended if people called me a cheat because I have it enabled.
Also I want to be able to see who team shoots me, and who I have accidentaly team shot, and who is thawing enemy in doors etc
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I have it alot when the player is camping around a corner, then i run in with my gauntlet & kill him. =] thats nice.

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FIREFOX wrote:

Hello
Personally for me, I very rarely see the name flash up on screen through wall etc and even when I do see it, it is only there for a split second.
I should imagine its the same for most other people.
Inmo to call it a cheat is ridiculous, I would feel VERY offended if people called me a cheat because I have it enabled.
Also I want to be able to see who team shoots me, and who I have accidentaly team shot, and who is thawing enemy in doors etc
Regards

eh, u didnt read the topic beazt linked, where i didnt explain exactly how it works, but it is possible to use it whenever u want.

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i just come from DEEX ...
there are also some peppy ppl ...
that seem to know the PB-FREE periods!
and use them to cheat!!! Confused
>usin timenudge -30 (for example)!!!!!

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Major rehashing.

xp_drawnames 1
cg_drawnames 1
timenudge -xx
on and on...

There is nothing wrong with discussing these except that they have been discussed ad nauseam when E+ Nation had a larger population.

The majority decision was to allow either drawnames, and based on what Skull said it has been modified for 1.04 (it that is ever released).

Besides, not everyone can play with it. I tried once and took an instant dislike to it. Perhaps it might work better in a foggy environment but on 7++ I found it incredibly distracting.

After some volatile discussions in 2006, I thought that the Timenudge issue was dead and buried. The majority decision seemed to indicate that a Timenudge of +/- 10 was the maximum acceptable floor and ceiling.

However, I always got major flack for using it in 2006 (with a 128kb connection) and 2007 (with a 256kb connection) from a 3rd world country.

But to be honest, there are so many Q3/E+ parameters that can be turned off or dialed down that even if this were banned it should not really matter.

What I find more disturbing than parameters like drawnames is the lack of consistency on E+ Servers over these issues:

The Camels Clan wrote:

...Some time ago I added to pbsv.cfg rule for drawnames to disallow it.

Its used for all servers where I got access.

Camel is not the only Server Admin to do arbitrary things like that.

I could go on and on about settings that the Community were divided about but that a majority felt was not a cheat and yet some servers still have banned those parameters.

Because I play in the US but live in Central America, I am particularly sensitive to E+ players who live far away from the servers that they play on (example, Chile and Argentina players) and see no reason to ban com_maxfps "30", snaps "20", timenudge (+/-10), etc.

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Everyone hates being called a cheat.

Enabling the cvar is lame. There are too many variables already that add to the numerous disadvantages online.

As far as a divided community, I've played Quake for years and can't tell you a game with a more divided community.

Off to next topic bye!

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WASP*KILLER wrote:

...com_maxfps "30"

i hope u mean cl_maxpackets

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SINON)NWC( wrote:

It's been bothering me the last few weeks so here goes.

Why is it servers are continuing to allow the use of /xp_drawnames 1?

There are "ahem clans" and you know who you are!!
that push the use of this and its a cheat as far as I'm concerned.

If you can see the name behind corners without seeing the model, its a problem .

I say ban it completely.

yea, im with you..

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