wtf admins, from beer server
Since I was the one who banned Pusik first time he talked to me a lot on forum, asking me when he can play, why why why...bla bla bla...so...I directed him to forum first...to make public appology.
And told him that after that "im sorry " topic he must wait some time before he can play...
and he still is banned from rankings and we just decided to reduce his ban time on beer since its up to the server owner to decide that.
And one last important thing...ok, maybe he isnt trustable when he says "i wont cheat again" altho he said it.
but we all know its his last chance and that he must not fu*k up....
and lets be honest....I would rather have him play under his real nick (where we can spec him if he gets weird in his play) than to come on beer with same (or better) hack under new ID where all we can do is start specing and discuss from scratch about some "mystery" RU player with weird shots. This way its better and more fair, even if some ppl have problems with seeing ex cheaters name. Why hide when he's gonna get cought eventually IF he cheats again.
Quote:how can using hax in a computer game be compared with raping a girl???!?!?!?pretty easy if you lose link with reality and feels like that girl after game
sorry for spam but roflmao. ( damn roflmao is old. )
And on topic, I pretty much remember when they talked about the ban, they only talked about ranked and not servers .
imho it's only server owner's decision to ban or unbann any ppl. So if u don't agree, as it said before, u can rent ur server and ban there every1 u want to, but best way ban ip-range from 0.0.0.0 to 255.255.255.255 and that's it - ur problems solved for ever and ever... I hate cheaters also but i'm for second chances... and ye, if i would be server owner i would ban every1 also for discussing my decisions somewhere else then in private messages with me.
Since I was the one who banned Pusik first time he talked to me a lot on forum, asking me when he can play, why why why...bla bla bla...so...I directed him to forum first...to make public appology.
And told him that after that "im sorry " topic he must wait some time before he can play...and he still is banned from rankings and we just decided to reduce his ban time on beer since its up to the server owner to decide that.
And one last important thing...ok, maybe he isnt trustable when he says "i wont cheat again" altho he said it.
but we all know its his last chance and that he must not fu*k up....
and lets be honest....I would rather have him play under his real nick (where we can spec him if he gets weird in his play) than to come on beer with same (or better) hack under new ID where all we can do is start specing and discuss from scratch about some "mystery" RU player with weird shots. This way its better and more fair, even if some ppl have problems with seeing ex cheaters name. Why hide when he's gonna get cought eventually IF he cheats again.
Well said.
Add to that the fact most caught cheaters that have even a small bit of common sense in them will stop cheating once exposed and publicly condemned. Hell, i'm in a clan/team/whatever with someone that used to cheat on e+. Since then he apologized, was given a second chance, and turned out to be a good player on his own + a nice guy and teammate (even if i only played with him a handful of times ).
Doesn't hurt nothing to give someone a second chance and see what they do with it. Banning someone takes only 10 seconds, making them think again and stop bullshitting will not only give you the good samaritan butterflies going on in your stomach, it will also extend the small community you guys have by one more productive, clean player.
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Doesn't hurt nothing to give someone a second chance and see what they do with it. Banning someone takes only 10 seconds, making them think again and stop bullshitting will not only give you the good samaritan butterflies going on in your stomach, it will also extend the small community you guys have by one more productive, clean player.
Exactly...its about seeing the big picture. And to be lenient to the ones who deserve it.
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Doesn't hurt nothing to give someone a second chance and see what they do with it. Banning someone takes only 10 seconds, making them think again and stop bullshitting will not only give you the good samaritan butterflies going on in your stomach, it will also extend the small community you guys have by one more productive, clean player.Exactly...its about seeing the big picture. And to be lenient to the ones who deserve it.
I'm all up for that, but you still kinda forget the OTHER reason people are being punished for their crimes ( other then just make them suffer/pay for what they did ), you want it to deter other people from doing the same thing.yes, it's not likely that a kid who's thinking about cheating really thinks oh look what happened to pusik for e.g, maybe I shouldn't. but it IS likely that a kid who's thinking about cheating will say : " eh, if I get caught, I'll just have to apologize and wait a couple of months to play RANKED, it's not like I can't play anymore "
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This isn't about playing ranked, it is about playing on a public server which is private proberty, he is still banned on ranking...
why this is getting mixed up all the time?
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This isn't about playing ranked, it is about playing on a public server which is private proberty, he is still banned on ranking...
why this is getting mixed up all the time?
I know, I didn't mix it, maybe I just didn't explain myself the best way I could ( or you just misunderstood me )
I was replying to what beast and madbringer said, that they believe people should have second chances and the right guidelines etc...In a shorter way - I said that the punishment ( ban ) has more to it than just punish the "felon", it should deter people from following the "felon"'s way.My whole post actually has nothing to do with what sort of ban he had or not, maybe a bit when I explained it with the example, but it's minor.
Why you think that pusik cheater?? and why you thint that pusik admin wtf??
Kent, 2 things.1st. Go to school and learn english or use google.translator if u can't understand messages, that were posted before.
2nd. PUSIK is busted on cheating - he was kicked by pb.
For community: I start thinking, that KENT can already being PUSIK, Shadow or anybody else of this organisation