Cheater Report Discussion

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Jesus... I dont know what the hell is wrong with you guys.Yesterday Shox got accused about cheating the day before that Hammer of Borg accused of using wallhack...Its just not funny anymore.leave the people alone and let everyone play his/her game.I realize i dont use this forum so often yet i think Golly's attitude is so not wrong.If i got accused by cheating when i am not cheating that would make me agressive as him.Btw if Golly is cheating so the old player Evil-Shadow(CTF player not that plus player that you have banned) must be cheating also.becuz his bfg was way better than Golly's bfg.

My bfg is better than Gollys Tongue, and as for shadow, he was good with all weapons, beat skull many times even in pb servers. As for this Golly stuff and cheating, I have looked at the details posted by skull, watched the demos on timescale .4 etc etc, and all i see is bfg jumps all over the place, aimed shots even though his turn rate is fast with good success (( he has always played like that)) and those that were aimed at wall are no more that him taking pot luck shots in the hope of hitting someone, as I do also. The one where he shoots at the wall by the entrance could very easily have been a shot aimed at the actual door but he missed that and hit wall, Lets no overlook the fact that watching a demo at .4 in slow motion makes it all look like you are thinking at that speed when your shooting, when in fact you are shooting without having the time to think in the real game. I doubt he even made an effort to shoot at that wall, it just happens to have hit that place. The DM17 screenshots where he didnt aim at the 2 spawned players but shot down at the floor even though he saw no player there,, I do that often, simply because very often someone will walk out from that position and i hit lucky, I did a demo of myself the other day on dm1 to see how it looked, The number of times i shot and hit a wall where a player came out from entrance within a second were many. some of those shots were me aiming at the entrance but missed.. There were a were a few shots where I took a shot at one player and hadnt even noticed in the game itself that there were 3 others around me unitl i played it slow motion. I also discovered what a crap shot I am ))), well sometimes anyway. My point is, I play like Golly, but jump with grenaded not bfg, and my demo didnt look all that much different that Gollys.

I think its a bit poor to accuse vetran players of cheating and expect them to prove they are not cheating. Thats like your guilty until you proove your innocent ((not how it works in legal circles)), you should be the one that provides undeniable evidence where over 95% of the people reviewing it agree its a cheat. I dont think it is for Goilly to prove he is innocent. If I were Golly and were accused like this, I would be very pissed off and agressive to,,, not because I felt I had been caught out, but because I know I dont cheat and to be falsly accused in a public forum would make me very angry. The problem with the way this is done is anyone can accuse someone of cheating, even with poor evidence like you have with Golly, and once people read Golly cheating, even if he is tottally innocent, shit sticks and rumours get around. It;s very unfare to smear someones character in public, especially someone who has given so much to this game over the years.

This whole thing with Golly, bunz/kersy and his comments, stinks of a witch hunt to me by people who hide behind there positions with there own agendas who seem hell bent of getting rid of long time players who fight there corner and say how they feel. Like, if it upsets your delicate nature because its worded in a blunt way, then you feel you need to get your own back on them and show everyone here how powerfull and Godly you are by geting them removed as admins or banned from playing. This game is dying a death anyway, all you will do is help it die faster. How about focussing your efforts on obvious cheats where the evidence is clear cut....

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Well put together! It's a witch-hunt initiated by people who obviously think that they do something good for the community while doing the exact opposite with their slanders.

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JO.ohnny wrote:

nothing exists untill its proven...

what about God ?
sneaky question Happy

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ziiip wrote:
Jesus... I dont know what the hell is wrong with you guys.Yesterday Shox got accused about cheating the day before that Hammer of Borg accused of using wallhack...Its just not funny anymore.leave the people alone and let everyone play his/her game.I realize i dont use this forum so often yet i think Golly's attitude is so not wrong.If i got accused by cheating when i am not cheating that would make me agressive as him.Btw if Golly is cheating so the old player Evil-Shadow(CTF player not that plus player that you have banned) must be cheating also.becuz his bfg was way better than Golly's bfg.

and as for shadow, he was good with all weapons, beat skull many times even in pb servers.

Ofcourse he would beat skull when PB is on.It was old times and skull didnt know how to hide cheats so he couldnt use cheats on a server which PB is on.
p.s:Anti stop bragging your son:D we love him too..

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9d1c65341c2e4ed7 wrote:

_Evil_Antichrist wrote:
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Well put together! It's a witch-hunt initiated by people who obviously think that they do something good for the community while doing the exact opposite with their slanders.

P.S.: Thread saved.

You'd have to be a real useful idiot not to see anything wrong on the
demo posted. It's quite obviously some kind of bot. Now let's see your
tangible input on it.

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[MR.]MIRCWAR wrote:

9d1c65341c2e4ed7 wrote:
_Evil_Antichrist wrote:
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Well put together! It's a witch-hunt initiated by people who obviously think that they do something good for the community while doing the exact opposite with their slanders.

P.S.: Thread saved.

You'd have to be a real useful idiot not to see anything wrong on the
demo posted. It's quite obviously some kind of bot. Now let's see your
tangible input on it.

I have already studied the demos, seen the shots that skull has posted, have been playing this game for over 10 years, and would pick up on a cheat in that time, Im not stupid... and I have already given my own explanations in great detail with reasons why he had some of those types of shots. If i genuinely believe he was a cheat, I would be the first person to ban him, I hate cheats with a vengance, they kill the game. But I dont believe he is a cheat, but at the end of the day, what ever I say or think, or others say or think, it will never be enough for the likes of skull or you who are so convinced your right, your egos would unlikely allow you to back down and give Golly the benefit of the doubt. I see more people saying that he doesnt look like he is cheating than those saying he does. It wont be the cheats that kill this game the way everyone here is going, it will be the cheat preventers that will kill it. If it wasn't for the likes of Bunz, kersy, golly, ozy, and many other long time players who make the time to be on the retro servers, the sever would be dead as would be retro.

What I still haven't worked out here, is at what point is a decision made as to weather Golly is innocent or Guilty?? and how is that decision made? Presumably the likes of skull would not be allowed to vote, its for others to look at his evidence and decide. So how many people are involved and are they all impartial and does it required a unanimus vote to get it passed, as in courts?

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a real useful idiot

This is not first time you follow this user with insults...commander.
'some kind of bot'... people can say that for almost anything, that it is done but some kind of bot.

Did you accuse Golly for using imaginable bot.

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!@#$%&*( terror )_ wrote:

JO.ohnny wrote:
nothing exists untill its proven...

what about God ?

sneaky question Happy

"God is in each one uf us" Happy

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what i wonder is, people are claiming all the time that the "shoot behind the wall" shots are happening all the time randomly at anyone of you. But nobody, really nobody posted a random demo to show that. I watched a lot of demos of myself and others, and i saw this happend maybe 4 or 5 times in watching 1 hour demos.

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make the vote.

yes, no, not sure and see what happens, ALL can make their opinion to it then.

_Evil_Antichrist wrote:

[MR.]MIRCWAR wrote:
9d1c65341c2e4ed7 wrote:
_Evil_Antichrist wrote:
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Well put together! It's a witch-hunt initiated by people who obviously think that they do something good for the community while doing the exact opposite with their slanders.

P.S.: Thread saved.

You'd have to be a real useful idiot not to see anything wrong on the

demo posted. It's quite obviously some kind of bot. Now let's see your

tangible input on it.

I have already studied the demos, seen the shots that skull has posted, have been playing this game for over 10 years, and would pick up on a cheat in that time, Im not stupid... and I have already given my own explanations in great detail with reasons why he had some of those types of shots. If i genuinely believe he was a cheat, I would be the first person to ban him, I hate cheats with a vengance, they kill the game. But I dont believe he is a cheat, but at the end of the day, what ever I say or think, or others say or think, it will never be enough for the likes of skull or you who are so convinced your right, your egos would unlikely allow you to back down and give Golly the benefit of the doubt. I see more people saying that he doesnt look like he is cheating than those saying he does. It wont be the cheats that kill this game the way everyone here is going, it will be the cheat preventers that will kill it. If it wasn't for the likes of Bunz, kersy, golly, ozy, and many other long time players who make the time to be on the retro servers, the sever would be dead as would be retro.

What I still haven't worked out here, is at what point is a decision made as to weather Golly is innocent or Guilty?? and how is that decision made? Presumably the likes of skull would not be allowed to vote, its for others to look at his evidence and decide. So how many people are involved and are they all impartial and does it required a unanimus vote to get it passed, as in courts?