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Ungrounded counter-attacks, followed by tons of insults by his mates. Typical for cheaters.

lol? I hate mow. I hate him because of the way he behaves, the way he does decisions, for example, I would have never let dranzer into my clan (due to him being some kind of public clown) - nevertheless mow showed his decision was right that time.
Only reason I joined f2b were the stronger mates, like fala and toxic, mow was just the keystone which needed to be in central place to hold us together, he also expect me to behave this way especially, otherwise it wouldn't have worked.

After all mow would never try to win on costs of his principles, which makes him perfectly predictable and thats the only reason why we both could work together, he knows how I behaves, I know how he behaves and therefor we can work together while neither of us would backstep each other because we both have the principle of the open fight.

Anyways, to evaluate my point with shox, here is a perfect example of the way he is argumenting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teMlv3ripSM (couldn't find the alternative one)

Shox is like: Yes, you cheat.
Me: No, I don't, look all those stuff here, it's real.
Shox: Yes you cheat.
Me: No, look...
Shox: Yes you cheat.

Great piece of argumentation, don't you agree?

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Let me set 1 thing straight , shox banned u now from all borg servers and he has the total right to do that as hes 100% percent sure that u cheated and not even tryed to hide it , and not shox him but other admins PMed me too about this
I will instruct all other admins to do the same with u

Wow, that's so retarded i just had to reply.

If Shox is so sure that Skull is a cheater, maybe he should provide evidence? Because the stuff posted by Violence and that other guy is some of the weakest proof i have ever seen. I mean, there's literally nothing there. Some flickshot video Skull himself made (seriously, rofl), a screen of him having his xhair NEAR a guy behind a wall and a couple of demos of him owning a few scrubs. Are you fucking serious? Is that really enough for you to say someone is a cheater?

Where can i see him tracking people through walls and seemingly making decisions based on information he couldn't possibly have? Where can i see him snapping to hitboxes repeatedly and with mechanical precision? Where can i see him hovering around models with his cursor and shooting as soon as he's at the edge of the hitbox?

Present the people with some of that (lots of that, preferably, since he is a good and established player) and you have a case. Otherwise, all you have to show for yourself is petty, childish anger at a guy you don't like and are being a dick towards simply because you can. Thought server admins should be held to higher standards than that.

I'm not a huge fan of Skull, the person, myself, so i can understand why some people would flip out and get butthurt about him, but i do respect his gaming skill. If you want to go around and ruin his reputation, at least make some god-damn effort to prove the shit you're slinging at him. Fucking idiots.

Actually, i can see whoever made that funny little web page about Skull, has since backtracked from it. Guess where that leaves you? Give you a hint - it's dark, it's smells nasty, and there's a shit train coming.

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@skull
I dont see u explain somewhere exactly that situation where the people call u a wallhacker , oh and btw shox reputation is fine in the e+ world otherwise i wouldnt make him admin of borgservers

Oh wait, which situation? There was none specified, which is again why I say shox plays with closed cards.
Let me bring it down into a dialog form so you can actually compare to the posts made by people.

A: You cheat.
Me: Why/how?
Person A either can specify a situation within a demo, or make general assumptions like aimhack, autoshoot, wallhack etc. Neither of both was said, so I went ahead and defend myself via making the persons who accused me realize their anticheat skill is nothing. For teq this was the moment he said aimhack and me being d9-cheater, which shows that he cant differ the mousemovement of a good player from a random hacker. For Violence/pizdec this was the moment they accused me of wallhacking while I shown the cam of my screen after the game showings its definitely not a wallhack. For Shox I cant do that since he didn't specify which cheat, nor any situation, while sametime I have the cam of a perfectly clean game online inclusive live config upload after the game as seen on the cam.

So heh, I just gotta argument like him, I do not cheat and want to be unbanned from borg servers, please unban me.

ps: Maybe you should make yourself a own opinion before deciding hammer.

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, a screen of him having his xhair NEAR a guy behind a wall

Just to get that right, the screens with r_shownormals are taken out of a demo we made from golly, not from me.

Sry, it is up to shox to proof (arguments, explanations) us.

And again, i posted that skull posted tons of demos and a "cam-video" of hisself, and u just ignored it and claim that skull is not defending hisself.

"dodging arguments and given proofs" means u speak ur mind freely while ignoring given facts.

And skull was not "accused", he was spoken "guilty" by shox without any argument. This all is not about "Is skull cheating or not", it is about the personal and heavy injection against skull. And this is a injurious falsehood based on personal reasons.

oh so heres that drama threat that i recommended for Shox to post some days ago on the shoutbox
instead he did not made his own one but rather waited for someone to post his own post.
I had to read 40 new posts so it taken me some time to reply

@Skull: other pov from the secondary camera is nice, but you should been make 2 things, first, camera no. 1 you should get it to your hands and closeup to the monitor so we could see the quake3.exe size and other files that you store in your q3 directory, then put again on the table
camera no. 2 and 1: should point to a source monitor not to cloned one, they can think oh we dont see your wallhack, maybe its on source monitor

Skull said what he knows about cheats and what he dont knows, in this case, how to build own one, even I dont know how, but I know pretty well how they work and how to detect any unusual behaviours.

Skull provided video clips of his live game on a public server, made demo and recorded it via cameras.
You can see he plays same or simmilar with his skill, without any extra equipment.

I didnt take that 'page' seriously after viol posted it, simply because theres nothing interesting about skull, i closed the page after i saw that funny screenshot that skull posted from the cheaters pov @ golly with r_shownormals 1, simply cuz author thought its a skulls wallhack xD