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Cheater Report Discussion
21. February 2012 - 19:02
#111
Re: Cheater Report Discussion
wrote:ok ;D from today i will use 10 banable cvars in my cfg
proof me that i will cheat with them in cfg ;P
There is no presumption of innocence. You will have to proof me that you aren't cheating, not me 
21. February 2012 - 19:05
#112
Russian Federation
Re: Cheater Report Discussion
huhu
21. February 2012 - 19:17
#113
Re: Cheater Report Discussion
as i know, nowhere is wrote that the cvar means redcard or ban from ranking ;] as i know you need to proof that i use cheats not in other way show me 100% proof for that i was using them as active cheat, not as 'virtual' constant var in my config what generaly means nothing if they are not linked with cheat
fps you are more stupid than i was thinking
edit:
he had it, got kick, remove it from cfg and back to play. so where is the problem? he wasnt able to play with it. also some variables are get into cfg from "nowhere" ;-] you even do not know when you get them inside.
21. February 2012 - 19:47
#114
Re: Cheater Report Discussion
Benedykt, relax, and check the first post at the topic "Report cheaters here".
wrote:
Here is the current E+ view on cheaters, and punishment for violations:Caught with obvious or prooven hacks/scripts = RED CARD
Caught with non-active cheat or cheat variable in cfg = YELLOW CARD
Caught for a slight violation (such as ghosting) = YELLOW CARD
This topic is a part of ranking rules, and yellow card is a default warning for invalid cvars. Bopoh recieved 6-month ban for it, afterwards the ban was removed due to provided evidence of non-cheating. Same as here, I asked him to give us evidences that we wrong. At your place, I would just help him with it neither trying to insult me.
21. February 2012 - 20:30
#115
Re: Cheater Report Discussion
some1 maybe at last will place all rules in one thread multipled to few sections?
personaly i will wrote to you later smth about that.
edit: btw. for that what we can see he can have only yellow card. what means yellow card? he cannot play CWs? if yes what is difference between Yellow Card and Red Card if both of them disable player from possibility to playing CWs?!
21. February 2012 - 20:59
#116
Germany
Re: Cheater Report Discussion
play more football pope, yellow card means that any further violation will cause bad stuff to ur gaming license.
21. February 2012 - 21:21
#117
Re: Cheater Report Discussion
Skull iam basketball fan, but i know what means when some1 in football recive yellow card.
now some facts from e+
FPS: "As far as cheat cvar is banable offence, he isn't able to play any CWs until the decision would be taken"
FPS: "This topic is a part of ranking rules, and yellow card is a default warning for invalid cvars (sensless bla bla bla)"
source: misstress "Caught with non-active cheat or cheat variable in cfg = YELLOW CARD"
as we can read in ranking rules:
Quote:
Penalties for ranking rules violations.
- Verbal warning is a penalty for minor rules violation. It has no formal confirmation at this topic.
- Yellow card is a penalty for usual rules violation or systematic minor rules violations.
- Red card is a penalty for a serious rules violation (active cheat /multiclanning) or
systematic usual rules violations. (2 yellow cards = red card)
as we can see, FPS said that BOykinS cannot play CWs (before for similar situation bopoh was have 6moonths ban but it was taken out from him)... on what rule basis that his verdict?
i wrote that he is stupid. this is not insult, tis is fact, when he do what he want even if this is wrong with his own rules ;P
situation from real life from law from most of countrys: 1man is killed by gun. you are caugh by policeman with that gun. question: you are a murder? NO! question: you need to proof that you dont kill that 1man? NO! you can do not say nothing. its role of police/judge/law to proof that YOU killed some1. people suspected to be guilty is only suspected until police will proof his fault/guilty or find true / real murder.
so going forward by thinking like normal human you FPS need to find proof that he used that in game in past or in future game from that what you have on screen - if you want to ban him from some CWs. otherwise you can only give him YELLOW CARD for having not clean config.
thx for watching, situation is clear, right?
21. February 2012 - 21:57
#118
Re: Cheater Report Discussion
Benedikt, I doubt that you graduated high school and youre able to explain me about the existing presumption of innocence.
Get rid of bringing examples on your fingers, I thought you aged 16 years to gain an ability express yourself well.
I told you about the fact that I'm not going to prove anything to you at your previous claim:
Quote:
as i know, nowhere is wrote that the cvar means redcard or ban from ranking ;] as i know you need to proof that i use cheats not in other way show me 100% proof for that i was using them as active cheat, not as 'virtual' constant var in my config what generaly means nothing if they are not linked with cheat
Yes, this is the case, I don't have to look for any evidence of your guilty. You're right about one thing, it really is a yellow card and in this particular case, I can't get him banned.
Other words, I just gave him a chance to appear in the subject and explain to us all the way how this command came into this cfg to avoid the warning.
If you ask me about on what reason I had forbidden him to play CWs, then I would explain it to you - the player is spotted with a variable activating a cheat. Im able to stop him from playing cws on some ammount of time, as long as rank team looking up for all the circumstances.
All that you're trying to do now - everything is directed exclusively against your clanmate. I said that I expect an explanation from him, and I'm not the only one waiting. I think other players are also interested in this. All of what you're doing - it's actually confirm the fact that he played with cheats turned off.
Of course, as you know, I do not have no desire and no possibility to check it out. Therefore, while the rank team makes decision about a punishment, he is not allowed to play cws, but I would still recommended him to come here and give an explanation. If it does not happen he will get his yellow card and the conversation would be over.
21. February 2012 - 22:32
#119
Re: Cheater Report Discussion
fps read all again and fight by your head against the wall.
its only cvar, not whole cheat. its only your ill needing to ban him from next cws ;-] cuz it is not (like you pinted) in any validation of rules. its only because of you. find demos where he was using cheat and prof to us that he was. or find logs where he was permanent banned for having cheats on hdd.
question: does tanaka had yellow card for his detected real hacks?
cvar detected in config means nothing for me, cuz i know how easy is get them into cfg.
at last... he was playing that game till end without any error, so when he was using that cheat? please explain it. again: cvar means that same as nothing.
even if you think that he was using it in past.... i ask you: he got kick by e+ anticheat system? NO. so do not be rude man! just tell: just tell that you react too fast without thinking
how situation looks now?
i will point that: e+ anticheat dont kick him before and later / pb dont kick him before and later / people what i know dont accuse him of cheating / i pointed also that how easly you can get cvar into config.
what you pointed fps? you had only 1screen after wich he was playing there without any problem + rules cleary say: only yellow. and you give him christmass bonus like: no CWs for boykins = title cheater xD
like in past i said similar to skull, now to you fps: you are not judge or god here: work by the rules and for people, not against them and us ;P
21. February 2012 - 22:38
#120
United Kingdom
Re: Cheater Report Discussion
wrote:
cvar detected in config means nothing for me, cuz i know how easy is get them into cfg.
at last... he was playing that game till end without any error, so when he was using that cheat? please explain it. again: cvar means that same as nothing.
I'm playing q3 from the day it went out, never had any problems with it. Also cvars mean nothing to me because I'm staying away from cheats, if your buddy would do the same he wouldn't suffer now
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