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Cheater Report Discussion
21. February 2012 - 22:44
#121
Re: Cheater Report Discussion
Sorry, but I won't bother self to answer on questions I already answered. Evenmore I'm not realy intersted in your opinion about this case, because you are the intersted side.
I'll check server logs and ask people were playing there. Also as I said I would like to see Boykins posts there. Until decision is taken and we are checking the evidences for suspecting cheater - the decision stays as it is. Maybe Fate will answer on your upcomoing questions.
21. February 2012 - 22:54
#122
Germany
Re: Cheater Report Discussion
Well bene, just to use UR argument to counter UR argumentation.
If someone is caught with the pistol causing the kill right at the place the police is ofc going to take him to prison till its proven he was that while best evidence is the pistol being in his hands. So much to that one.
About boykins, if he has the cvar now in his cfg, why it never was there earlier?!
21. February 2012 - 23:06
#123
Re: Cheater Report Discussion
ofc, he goes to jail. but he is not guilty untill they proof that he was killer. but remember that the every suspected is potential not guilty for judge! they cannot think from start that some1 is guilty - its one of basic law.
about cvar. ask him. maybe as many members here was have cheat at his hdd to check how it works, deleted it after, but not noticed that he have cvar inside conifg - cuz have not idea that it will be there = when noticed that cuz of pb he removed it directly. maybe this time he was want to cheat?! haha. maybe he has got cl_aoutodownload 1 and connect to some server at some pointrelase and downloaded xyz.pk3 with file autoexec.cfg where inside was that or other cvar? maybe downloaded config from some site where was that cvar? i can easy proof that he wasnt cheating: pb for that - every1 knowssometimes pb kick for some strange variables or wrong asci char name - pure for that - every1 knows sometimes pure kick for fun xD - and e+ anticheat doesnt kick him before and later for that. even durring this game. so tell me please in what time, what galaxy and what server he was cheating? 
edit:
darky "oh jesus...just give yellow card, end of story...he still can play clan
wars fun wars etc etc...just if in future there will be some situation
like this, yellow will turn into red as blood that runs in our heart!
ffs!"
all the time i fight for that. fps is just blind or do not want to say he chosed wrong decision.
21. February 2012 - 23:05
#124
Re: Cheater Report Discussion
oh jesus...just give yellow card, end of story...he still can play clan wars fun wars etc etc...just if in future there will be some situation like this, yellow will turn into red as blood that runs in our heart! ffs!
Gloria Mōmentum
“Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships.”
“There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter.”
—Ernest Hemingway
21. February 2012 - 23:09
#125
Re: Cheater Report Discussion
wrote:edit:
darky "oh jesus...just give yellow card, end of story...he still can play clan
wars fun wars etc etc...just if in future there will be some situation
like this, yellow will turn into red as blood that runs in our heart!
ffs!"
all the time i fight for that. fps is just blind or do not want to say he chosed wrong decision.
well, then he just needs to re read the thread, re confirm the decision, make yellow card for boykins, and problem solved, since the violation was about that command.
Gloria Mōmentum
“Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships.”
“There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter.”
—Ernest Hemingway
21. February 2012 - 23:20
#126
Re: Cheater Report Discussion
as he wrote he ended discusion in discusion thread cuz atm he cannot proof anything except this one screen xD
@FPS
why you classified me into interested side ;> read this topic deeper and you will see that iam always here when some1 is only accused/suspected and there are not existing real proofs for that 
also now you should working directly with rules as you are ranking moderator, and you do simply different way than by rules.
like i said in other topic - rules need to be changed ;P
22. February 2012 - 6:19
#127
Re: Cheater Report Discussion
Benedykt why you invent different reasons? Why did not answer Boykins that he had? I think he knows.
22. February 2012 - 13:57
#128
Germany
Re: Cheater Report Discussion
Wow, never read as much crap as in one post.
wrote:
about cvar. ask him. maybe as many members here was have cheat at his hdd to check how it works, deleted it after, but not noticed that he have cvar inside conifg - cuz have not idea that it will be there = when noticed that cuz of pb he removed it directly. maybe this time he was want to cheat?! haha. maybe he has got cl_aoutodownload 1 and connect to some server at some pointrelase and downloaded xyz.pk3 with file autoexec.cfg where inside was that or other cvar?
Cuz of that you have allowdownload zero, however NO cheater would put that cvar into a damn pk3. >_<
wrote:maybe downloaded config from some site where was that cvar?
Then it is his fault for using an cfg he didn't check, ever heard of not knowing doesn't protect from punishment?
wrote:i can easy proof that he wasnt cheating: pb for that - every1 knowssometimes pb kick for some strange variables
PB never kicks for strange variables, it kicks for specific variables, i got a pbsv.cfg here, and just to give as specific answer I totally gotta show you the baseq3 cvars it kicks for, all other are cheat based:
pb_sv_cvar cg_shadows IN 0 1
pb_sv_cvar r_singleshader IN 0
pb_sv_cvar r_znear IN 4
pb_sv_cvar r_shownormals IN 0
pb_sv_cvar r_picmip IN 0 16
pb_sv_cvar r_subdivisions IN 1 999
pb_sv_cvar snaps IN 30 125
pb_sv_cvar cl_maxpackets IN 60 125
pb_sv_cvar com_maxfps IN 60 125
pb_sv_cvar cl_timenudge IN 0
pb_sv_cvar xp_drawnames IN 0 (this is still older one, drawnames has been fixed nowadays)
pb_sv_cvar xp_modelscale IN 0 1
wrote:or wrong asci char name
pb_sv_extChar 1
gg
wrote:- pure for that - every1 knows sometimes pure kick for fun xD
Pure never kicks for fun, I can show you exactly I dont get kicked by pure even if i have tons of more pk3 in my baseq3 and sametime I can show you it kicks for a single pk3.
wrote:- and e+ anticheat doesnt kick him before and later for that. even durring this game. so tell me please in what time, what galaxy and what server he was cheating?
A server were noone of us was arround, or he fought bots to check if the cheat works on E+ anticheat online.
Anyways benedikt, if you dont know shit, dont start talking. Atm we only want a statement from boykins cuz all we know is that the cvar lately popped up in his config and wasn't there before, indicating that he actually did do something lately.
22. February 2012 - 14:23
#129
Re: Cheater Report Discussion
wrote:Cuz of that you have allowdownload zero, however NO cheater would put that cvar into a damn pk3. >_<
i use sometimes ONE not ZERO.
wrote:Then it is his fault for using an cfg he didn't check, ever heard of not knowing doesn't protect from punishment?
depends on situation, dont you think ;>
simple to you germanGOD point is that he recive "ban" from CWs per some time, what has nothing to do with rules. it is because fps want it.
wrote:PB never kicks for strange variables, it kicks for specific variables
ofc, variables need to be constant in pbsv.cfg. that was mind shortcut. some adins can put there crazy variables ;-]
wrote:pb_sv_extChar 1
DEFAULT = 0 | as you probably know, at some e+ servers it wasnt seted from start i remember i told that to some1 from rsqt or elitez cuz at one from their servers was that problem - more, in past many servers had that problem.
wrote:Pure never kicks for fun
bullshit! sometimes when you turn on pure at server it kicks all or most players from server. after reconnect or change map everything works correctly. its simple pure bug what happens recentyl.
wrote:so next hitler you need to know that not only you here know how works all those fancy things and it is not some sacrafice and mistery. everything about pb can be found at google or when you set your own server and start testing all pb_sv[tab] or pb_cl[tab] or simple pb_[tab] commands.
wrote:A server were noone of us was arround, or he fought bots to check if the cheat works on E+ anticheat online.
same like you dont you? same like others who want to check how work cheat or e+ anticheat.
btw. who are WE!? you are normal user. your 5minuts as ranking mod was kicked into space some time ago.
difference between my knowledge and yours knowledge is that you know how works e+ anticheat. cuz nothing about that i cant find at google.
22. February 2012 - 14:22
#130
Germany
Re: Cheater Report Discussion
wrote:so next hitler you need to know that not only you here know how works all those fancy things and it is not some sacrafice and mistery.
I read your post and I could counter any of your arguments, however I stop upon this one.
Get out of here.
honestly.
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