Cheating obsession?

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Hi all i want to talk about one thing . As we all know there are some new clans and this clans have new servers thats great but usually unexperinced players have a recon passwords and when they see somebody who they dont know and who is good they usually trying to bann him . I played on fake nick grr and almost get banned from (Hk) server coz cassablanka said im usimg wallhack he recorded some demos and if anyboody want pls simply talk to him and check them out . In my opinion reconn password isnt just a toy and serwer admins or cl's should give them only to players with experience .

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pls keep in mind, u r just a guest on a server, u don't have any rights there.

the relation with serverowners is like a giving and a taking from each other. cause basicly both can't without eachother.

basicly the hk servers are good admined servers, so if one does a mistake, it is no cause to blame somebody (u didn't here, i speak generally)

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u re not right i have right not to be banned or get warned bacause soomebody simply thinks im cheating and if they will bann every person who they think is a cheater e+ mod will simply die new players for example whe camed from osp or cpma are good but sometimes get kicked or banned for haveing a good aim from rail and they get back playing osp and quit e+ there

Admins can simply enable pb on servers enable an updated version of pb which kicks a real cheaters

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U didn't understood what i wrote, u have basicly no right on any gameserver which is not "yours"

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the relation with serverowners is like a giving and a taking from each other. cause basicly both can't without eachother.

this sentence means, players can't play, if they are just annoing, cheating, laming. owners have no sence to host, if he is admining to hard to stupid or whatever.

so, again, u have basicly no right on servers, but usually it's in owners interessest, that their server aren't empty, and is allways worried to do all correct.

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i know what u mean and its not a subject about being admin but about banning a lot of inocent people thats all i know some people deservs to be banned but some are banned because of unexperienced admins that is my point

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yeah here comes pb again ok let me state it here and now

PB DOESNT CATCH EVERYTHING BUT IS HANDY

so there is still a need for admins, and if an admin beleives someone is cheating what do you wan them to do ignore it? or spec it and see their reaction?i know on freeze i constantly spec and i have a few people i suspect and will ban if im certain.

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if u re sure yes but u cant be sure if u spec somebody in 2 1/1 games only because he is winning am i right in my opinion all admins should record demos of suspected players and post them at forum so that everyboody can see it and all admins can deicide u see e+ is specific mod a lot of frags are taken by chance not by skill but luck doesnt mean cheat

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the funny thing is, when u don't ban cheaters because u r not 100 % sure, u r mr. asshole to users, if u make just one mistake, u r mr. asshole again.

guys be happy, that there are still servers where people can play out their passion.

it's better to ban somebody on wrong way, as to not ban. cause cheaters who aren't get catched, makes the server more empty, as to ban 1 or 2 people with wrong suspecting per month, cause this mistake is returnable.

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thank you mowly, if you see a big player cheat, but can be sure and dont have a demo, but you ban him/her then theres a war against you, but then if people know and you dont do it, you get people angry cause you didnt.

as for admins having proof, this is down to the admin, if im concidering banning someone from a clan or so on i make sure i have a demo showing at least one cheat, then i have my proof so people who go mad can go away Laughing but if im sure i dont require proof as im acting on behalf of the server owner

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Not to start up a shit storm but many have complained about the HK server trance got banned from and along with a few others. They are fairly new to E+ so its hard to blame them but they will learn the ways soon enough.

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and this is all i mean i dont blame admins dont get me wrong i simply think that !!unexperienced!! players shouldn have acces to the reconn pass thats all im not so experienced player at e+ i started playing here about 8 months ago prev i have played cpma for 2 years and i havent benn accused of cheeting yet once at mr server one admin thought im using aim bot but all in all he discovered that he was wrong and thats ok but he didnt ban me he said me to aim without shooting thats all and on hk server after one game some player who i have seen for 2nd time wanted ban me and when i reveal my nick he said he its just a warning but warning for what???... after a little argument i simply left this server and told him to show his demos at this forum