i played defrag for several months, i forgot most of my tricks but i could teach you how to strafe jump orpheus

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http://youtube.com/watch?v=KThXqhApvVI&mode=related&search=

DEFRAG IS PRETTY DAMN FUN TO PLAY!!!!

this movie makes me to think that defrag is blabla fun to watch, but not to play )

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A CPMA buddy of mine; TiDaN has a pretty good tutorial for movements in CPM and VQ3 physics that's worth looking at. http://www.sharpcoding.com/projects/CPMA/

As for the movie... pretty good chops... not as fun to watch as mew or chezda... but still cool

a good tutorial to learn whats it about, but i would avoid such tips for learning as it does not fully explain whats realy happening when you do this tricks and what you need to bee doing exactly to perform perfect cj and stuff... with such tutorials you learn how to cj and other tricks, poorly you think you got it and that it will get better with practice, but this poor performed tricks fully come to your habbit so when you find out over time what makes perfect tricksl you already have bad habbits and its hard to learn again.

i learned left cj`s first, i knew what to do but still i went by feeling, for i didnt know what i needed to do EXACTLY. so know that i know that the more of a perfect circle you will go in the more speed you will gain, my right cj` are far better then my left ones because i learned wrong...

a very good tutorial on strafeing:

http://www.funender.com/quake/info/strafing_theory.htm

for total newbs i recommend the movie, genesis the begining that can be found on own-age

best way to learn how to strafe properly would be to dl defrag mod and record demos of yourself strafeing. then you watch the demos with the command that displays what buttons are beeing pushed. you can see right away what you doing wrong, my biggest mistake was i was holding jump too long, so you dont accelerate as much if you would only tap it, such mistakes are hard to spot, becasue strafein can be very intense for a begginer. compare ur demos to what you see in the movie

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A CPMA buddy of mine; TiDaN has a pretty good tutorial for movements in CPM and VQ3 physics that's worth looking at. http://www.sharpcoding.com/projects/CPMA/

As for the movie... pretty good chops... not as fun to watch as mew or chezda... but still cool

a good tutorial to learn whats it about, but i would avoid such tips for learning as it does not fully explain whats realy happening when you do this tricks and what you need to bee doing exactly to perform perfect cj and stuff... with such tutorials you learn how to cj and other tricks, poorly you think you got it and that it will get better with practice, but this poor performed tricks fully come to your habbit so when you find out over time what makes perfect tricksl you already have bad habbits and its hard to learn again.

i learned left cj`s first, i knew what to do but still i went by feeling, for i didnt know what i needed to do EXACTLY. so know that i know that the more of a perfect circle you will go in the more speed you will gain, my right cj` are far better then my left ones because i learned wrong...

a very good tutorial on strafeing:

http://www.funender.com/quake/info/strafing_theory.htm

for total newbs i recommend the movie, genesis the begining that can be found on own-age

best way to learn how to strafe properly would be to dl defrag mod and record demos of yourself strafeing. then you watch the demos with the command that displays what buttons are beeing pushed. you can see right away what you doing wrong, my biggest mistake was i was holding jump too long, so you dont accelerate as much if you would only tap it, such mistakes are hard to spot, becasue strafein can be very intense for a begginer. compare ur demos to what you see in the movie

Very good points... TiDaN's goal was to explain in a way that most people can understand. But of course I know what you mean, I've picked up bad strafing habits and still trying to correct them now. The tutorial you gave might take a little studying

One thing I notice about Defrag is the CPM physics they have implemented are easier than the current physics in CPMA. You can trick on a map in Defrag, and hit the jumps... load the same map in CPMA 1.32 or newer and it not be as easy as it is with Defrag's CPM physics. So ultimately my conclusion is, Defrag is great for learning how to use the physics to your advantage in the beginning, but pointless once you get to the point you know what you're doing and want to train those moves. If you're training to play CPMA... might as well train those moves using the actual CPMA mod.

Love the last faq on the link you gave moede

good link btw, will study it today.