Only to this sentence:

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but oh what happend? tvl kicks 3 players out the game in the same time, to force a 4-4 , thats fucking manipulating / cheating.

Thats the tactic. For me and you and others SICK tactic but tactic. They can do anything what they want to reduce their players on server. It is their problem. If they wanna play 4v4 (while 4v4, 5v5 and 6v6 is available), they can even specially leave the server. Its not manipulating and specially cheating. That is case of sportsmanship and honour.

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yeah man what are you speaking about?
proves are here, ppl understood, bnt won, finish this shit and think i am a shit,nob,asshole and more shits i dont care

YES stupid noob finish this shit

U talk on servers 30 minutes about rules from ASS only for BNT on this match

SERVER LOGS ARE PROFS

I dont see any rules about wchich maps we must plays as first second etc.

we have enought ppl to plays TVL map cpm21 BUT
u reffing this match only for BNT

DIRTY OLD WANT TVL must
SKULL Wont E5r TVL must plays e5r
TYP wont cpm14 TVL must play CPM14

LOGS saying all

then stop shit talking IDIOT becouse u dont have right

your rules only for this match only for BNT

Ok, just read all posts here about this situation tvl vs bnt and below is what I wanna write:

Typ was saying during this whole discussion (and not only he) that rules are rules - rules are the most important - all should follow the rules , if there aret any agreements from both sides. Then ok:

1 - there isnt any rule saying the sequence of maps - GAS' FAULT.
2 - there isnt any rule saying WHEN is 4v4, WHEN is 5v5 and WHEN is 6v6 - GAS' FAULT.

(now you say (specially gas): "cmon abarth, there is not really needed to write such rules coz all knows that.". NO NO NO! Like typ said - Rules are RULES!)

... and some more but less important - these ones are most important.

I noticed here that someone complained about other clan that is afraid on something. If I were like him, then I would say two things: TVL prefers play 5v5 tdm e5 than 4v4 AS MUCH AS bnt prefers e5r than e5. (ANYWAY I ALWAYS THOUGH TVL WANTED PLAY MORE VS MORE - I say it from my experience).

I tried to sort everything in my head and I see teh situation was like this:

Tvls and bnts came to the server. They played pro-dm6 tag - cool, bnt won so its 1:0 for bnt. Now tvl wanna play cp21 (right?). But bnt doesnt agree. Tvl is angry now but agrees on cp14 but they wanna e5. Bnt disagree - they are now angry but they finally agree on e5. But now bnt wanna 5v5. Tvl doesnt agree - they wanna play 4v4. The discussion with gas-ref is taking some time, and finally bnt is tired of tvl and ref says its wo for bnt - bnt leaves the server coz of the WO-decision. Tvl laughs now at bnt coz they left the server eventhough tvl was ready to play - they say WO.

Roflmao :D:D:D:D:D:D Never experienced that before

1. Dont think that if I were some months ago in tvl, I will only defend them. Actually: Very bad behaviour from tvl, I mean this 7 players available to play but they want to play 4v4 and they lie that 3 of them cant play (logs), coz they could play (at least one of them). That really sucks. BUT: even if that was specially, following the rules that unluckily say nothing about WHEN is v44, WHEN is 5v5 and WHEN is 6v6 (as I said before), they could do that.

2. About bnt: I tried to find some bad points at bnt but couldnt. Bnt just wanted to win that match (as everybody) and did nothing bad. I dont see any bad point at bnt.

3. I repeat once more: STRICT STRICT RULES! The whole conflict was imo MAINLY: tvl's (coz they didnt want to play fucking 5v5, omfg -,-') and Gas' fault (coz no strict rules)

I repeat often "strict rules" in a way according to what typ said about these all rules and GENERALLY rules. Rukles are rules and we all have to follow them if there is no situation like in match ed vs wgvd (or in other words - if there is situation like in match bnt vs tvl).

EVENTHOUGH ALL DECISIONS BY THE FINAL, I hope match tvl vs bnt will be replayed. Cmon noobs, SUCH great match = coz such strong clan BNT vs such strong clan TVL = and WO?? NO WAY!

Now look at it in THIS WAY: do you like play quake 3? Do you like play matches like tvl vs bnt (if you are in tvl or bnt) EVEN if its very nervous? You do. So just replay this match TO PLAY AGAIN AGAINST BNT (to tvls) and AGAINST TVL (to bnts).

if there are some wrong facts, correct me.

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well abarth, if enough people are avaible, 5v5 is standart by rules unless clans agree to something else.
and to the last point
i enjoy hard matches
i dont enjoy matches vs tvl whenever we played them.

WHY U talk still about 4vs4 or 5vs5

talk about rules wchich map must be first or second

U dont have rules and U must talk now about 4vs4 this is shit

TVL dont have any choose on this CW becouse GASOL refs this CW only for BNT, BNT wont 2 maps E5r and TVL must plays 2 maps E5r dont have any choose

BNT wont WO then GASOL saying WO for BNT

SERVER logs and Syon screenshot are profs

Gasol says "BNT wont bla vbla bla" then TVL must akcept this dont chave choose

then stop saying now about 4vs4

why BNT never plays vs TVL on E5 ??? always when I ask BNT for MATCH on E5 Dirty Old crys "We are only E5r clan" and we no plays E5

on this match BNT want plays only E5r afraid plays e5

OMG replay game
befor told about what map how many ppl what conf what rotation and see who the best ...for what talk about nothing on 10 pages ?

i think for bnt its not be a prob win one more and with out WO and close thins discuse