Freefly mode in clan wars
This is what u said under line (for sure edited by me)
for making it clear:
i ment m8s sitting on bench using free fly or whatever to give out position of enemys via teamchat teamspeak etc are completly lame.
i dont care if the m8 is a tm8 or not, look case of hal and hyper.@ trance: u can use a lot of buttons, also enter etc, u might also simply use /team s
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ps, maybe gtv?
Lol at you, Skull. You think this is cheating? Well, 99.9% of serious CPMA clans are cheating by having a coach in their team, who tells them where to camp, where are their enemies camping etc.
I guess 99.9% of old UT clans are cheating lamers too, for the exact same reason. And Q1. And Q2. And ET. And a ton of other games.
I always knew E+ is a little "behind" if we're talking about the culture of gaming, but this is freaking stoneage.
Mad hypothetical situation:
1vs1 TAG game, last seconds, score's a tie. You're on walk with BFG selected and about to turn round a corner when bang a BFG splashes at your feet when u're about to do that, killing you and giving the win to the opposite team. It appears one of the specs/players of the other team was in freefly mode following your every step around, and guiding his team-mate to your exact location.
How would you feel then m8?
I don't see how trying to make the game more fair could be stoneage-like. Wanna talk pro? Then what about major LAN Counter-Strike tournaments, that have fadetoblack enabled (this basically turns your screen black when you die) and interdiction to talk to your teammates after you die. Is this also part of the stoneage?
Ok i'm not saying make this mod pro or whatever, just make it fair if given the opportunity: http://forums.excessiveplus.net/viewtopic.php?t=19064
wrote:
for making it clear:
i ment m8s sitting on bench using free fly or whatever to give out position of enemys via teamchat teamspeak etc are completly lame.
i dont care if the m8 is a tm8 or not, look case of hal and hyper.
Lol at you, Skull. You think this is cheating? Well, 99.9% of serious CPMA clans are cheating by having a coach in their team, who tells them where to camp, where are their enemies camping etc.
I guess 99.9% of old UT clans are cheating lamers too, for the exact same reason. And Q1. And Q2. And ET. And a ton of other games.
another one who didnt understand me...
using free fly...to give out position of enemys
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Whatever is not disallowed by rules, by in-game mechanics and is not an actual cheat (like aimbot or wallhack), is, by default, allowed. I don't really get all the commotion. On KO vs 2!S war, in which i played, i viewed the demo and saw that frozen KO's were also giving the location of 2!S people. Was it an advantage? Hell yea. Was it an unfair advantage? You tell me.
I'm not bitching, i'm just saying, it happens, and if you don't like it, do something to make it not possible to do. It's that simple.
Usually when we are giving out positions it's just when we die. You get killed on RA you say where you died and how many enemies were around. That's one of the basic rules in our strategy. Some other times, sound gives up some positions, etc.
But back to the subject, yes Mad, it was allowed till now, it was part of the game that's why i even linked that thread in BETA reports. So it becomes impossible to freefly during a clan war.
hm.. i have idea how to solve freefly problem, it would be violent but i see only one way how to solve this problem now.
All persons who are in server during the war should record demos also in all wars should be ref. only ref should add demo after war, but if ref or someone from teams who played suspect that oponents used fleefly, team who are suspected all players and specs should add demos and proof that they wasnt in fleefly. if somebody dont show demos 1st time yellow card, 2nd time player who dont show demo are banned from 2-3 wars or something like that, 3rd time all clan get penallity in ranking, 4rd time banned from ranking permently. but for example if after 3 days from war that clan who are suspected, have right dont show demos and dont get penallity for it
wheres someone from the dev team when u need them! looks to me like they need to fix this bug or otherwise.
anyways wheres the problem. if u as a clan object to this then fine tell the other clan that u dont want specs in the game. end of story.
ps: off topic, but mad coaching in cpma isnt an idea thats universally liked. ive talked to quite a few players who think its not such a good idea. i mean yes having a feature that allows a coach who provides overall strategic advise is a good idea but because ur inadvertently adding the timer feature to the whole thing it takes away a lot of what makes games interesting. i havent played a tdm clan game yet but im pretty sure having someone else time EVERY item in the map would make things fairly boring.
It's not a cheat for fuck's sake, it's taking an advantage of a feature.
And, yea, i know that Wonkman, still, i was talking the highest rank games possible, in every (or at least, most of them) major tdm cpma tourney, as far as i know, coaches were deployed.
First: In darka ages ... eh I mean long time ago when Iz made a league - there were no spectators. I remeber that some not playing the certain map genx waited on our server and checked score thru eye or whatever. And no one had a porblem with that. Then the second map - those who did not continue their play get back to clan server - the rest to league server. Sure it had disadvantage (think of one of playing gets lagged out or sth.) but with matchmode its not a big deal anymore.
Anyway - that was more fair in my eyes, as I dont think spectators should help currently playing mates, I never liked and I did state that also durning the incidient in hyper vs c4 match. I also dont care how are the CPMA matches played.
But ... its that way since a longer time. After match with hyper we also started using spectators - as its quite impossible to forbid that to other clans. And so ... no 2!S did not cheat - otherwise almost every clan is also cheating. As I said - I dont like it, but cant do anything against that procedeer, so I live with it
However if there was a poll if spectators should be disalowed durning CW - I would personally give my vote as - Yes - they should. However that kind of voting will never happend - so ... who cares - its just old game! No money involved
@mad - so making a fast rail switch was also not cheat if u say about using "features". No third party software involved. No general rule bout that ...
omg.. lol.. i take a nap and i find this Oo
You ppl are so way off the topic here.
And ffs what kinda bug are you talking about???
The only reason i could see where the other team was is because they DIDNT LOCK it LOL
If you look closely at the demos, you will see only 2s team was locked and other team got locked a lil later..
Franky its not my fault other clan doesnt lock the team.. its not my problem and thats why locking is for! So you can have only the ones you want to spec you.
Also i didnt see anything from freefly cause i have enemymodel on and i hope you do know that you cant tell the difference between players then.. they all look the same.
Further more, i use team say for my players because some of them dont have TS working properly so they need input.
I dont write what i think only, i write what Bob say or anyone else for those who ARE NOT able to listen to them, they take help from me as a messenger. I also did that when Mow was playing for him cause he doesnt have TS on Vista.
God.. problems for nothing.