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So i have see that any players are not comeing and they tell nothing we have 2 games who no team whas online! What is this??? When its go i think we need no league! I have tell every one when i cant come to one date write me a MAIL and we search a new date! but no other write me that he cant come! And yesterday tell me one team that i can delete it from league! I SAY HELLO why this fucking first all regestrie and behind when its start no is coming! Thats make me angry and when its happend more i must think to close it! Its hard to manage all and its not easy to make server dates sitting home and watching games! But we must have dates for the games im not every day home and have time to sitting in front of the pc to waiting that one team have time to play!!! Crying

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Well, the rules of this league is crap.

1. We do NOT need an admin to be present at all matches. thats just stupid because its hard enough to plan a cw between two teams and it wont get any easier if we have to plan it with 2 teams PLUS one administrator.

2. Time and Date should be up to the teams, give them a 3 day timeframe. Game to be played before this or that date. With already determined dates there will always be one team that cant come and league is no fun anymore.

3. Fraglimit. 10 is waaaaaay to little. You dont even get a chance to get a feel for the map and its over. And there is no time to change tactics during the game either, set the fraglimit to 25 and there will atleast be a match instead of a few frags.

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SuperBo! wrote:

Well, the rules of this league is crap.

1. We do NOT need an admin to be present at all matches. thats just stupid because its hard enough to plan a cw between two teams and it wont get any easier if we have to plan it with 2 teams PLUS one administrator.

2. Time and Date should be up to the teams, give them a 3 day timeframe. Game to be played before this or that date. With already determined dates there will always be one team that cant come and league is no fun anymore.

3. Fraglimit. 10 is waaaaaay to little. You dont even get a chance to get a feel for the map and its over. And there is no time to change tactics during the game either, set the fraglimit to 25 and there will atleast be a match instead of a few frags.

Agree in everything!!

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gg Bo .. i agree

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^^yup what he said Happy

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bo 10 is right frag when its more its to long all its not to make so a big think!!!
All know that this league have dates you have reg you know the regulate so you cant say anything about this!!

But is very sad that many members are not interessting on this dates

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10 frags is like playing FFA with 5 frags fraglimit...

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i have see HM VS HEAD we have playes 30mins and its enough you must play taktik and not running and shot!! YOU must make taktik to win here its not only shootung and running!!! and thats what this here make interesting think i

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Here we go again, and this time it also happens weeks and weeks after the rules were first published...
Since this is the second time 4 me my patience in these matters are very low.
If you do this better, why dont you?
Atleast Sub7 have the guts to try. And as far as i know, nobody was
forced to participate. I read the rules, then i registered.
Im sure u did to?

I'm supposed to be one of the admins of this league (so far its limited to serveradmin only).
Even though i didnt write a single line of the rules i feel the need to try to respond to this, in my opinion, nonsens.

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Well, the rules of this league is crap.

1. We do NOT need an admin to be present at all matches.
thats just stupid because its hard enough to plan a cw
between two teams and it wont get any easier if we have
to plan it with 2 teams PLUS one administrator.

Well, im sure some do. All is not familiar with the rcon commands even if
they are simple, and dont wish to learn either. The few rules that, btw,
have been published and available to all 4 quite some time now, dont
require knowledge of rcon to participate. Stupid or not. And you miss one
point; Players dont plan the games! Except 4 doing one mapchoise, all they
have to do is show up, and if the matchtime aint good, they have to tell
Admin (Sub7). A good way would be (3 steps), 1- tell your opponents,
2- agree with opponents of new gametime, 3- if agreement is closed on
new date, tell leagueadmin. No new agreement of time, you lose the game.
Suggestion of second reschedule, you lose the game.
Having 24 teams agree on every gameedate will not work! 3 days
timeframe? Syncronizing one game can be done but keeping track of all
games and setting up servers? Duuudez! It can be done, im sure. Anyone
who wants to sacrifice the time, please tell!
The 'admin' booking thing is our problem, and we do not complain about it.
If we would, we would also be grateful if we were allowed to do this ourselves.
Ups and downs to everything!

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2. Time and Date should be up to the teams, give them a
3 day timeframe. Game to be played before this or that
date. With already determined dates there will always
be one team that cant come and league is no fun anymore.

Last league, 7 day timeframe wasnt enough sometimes. And there was
only 7 teams! This time there r 24! Gameschedule, as i read it it, will help
the teams in their planning. If you have any interst in when your games
are supposed to be played all you have to do is compare them with your
IRL-schedule as soon as possible. Look at the bright side. You dont have to
fill your contactlists with names that ordinary wouldnt be there. If
matchdate aint good, read suggestion above.
If this league gets fun or not, imo, are entirely up to the participants.

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3. Fraglimit. 10 is waaaaaay to little. You dont even get
a chance to get a feel for the map and its over. And there
is no time to change tactics during the game either, set
the fraglimit to 25 and there will atleast be a match instead
of a few frags.

Here, after having played one game in the league, mabe i have to agree,
atleast to the feel thing.
It was a short game and afterwards you wanted more Happy
But it definitvely was a game! To win all games will require excellent skill
and a great portion of luck. Unfreeze...
The game got very intense, my old heart almost freaked out. But
concidering this (and the outcome) game was great! Timelimit is set to
20 minutes/map, so if you want to be 'tactic' you have plenty of time.
The league is 2vs2. Very similar tactic as in a 1on1 game.
Neither of the maps lasted that long, and a few more scores wouldnt hurt.
You get a lousy start and its very hard to come back in game. Your only
option could be winning the next two maps. About the tactics; Its good to
have a backup-plan, if things go wrong, worked out be4 game! To do this
during game could be hard.

But, bottom line is; any changes or clarifying of the rules in any of these
matters at this point will NOT be supported by me. Only change that i would
concider is that its far too long between games. But Sub7 makes his point
clear; 'this is not a tournament'. My fear is that people dont have the
patience. I fear I dont Winking
On the other hand, running another league alongside gets possible.

So, what u guys waiting for?

/the 'suggestions' quoted above is made by SuperBo, but the answers is not pointed directly to him alone. If anyone gets offended by my opinion, please aim your anger at me alone. I did not pre-consult Sub7 in this matter.

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Nice Words IZ!!

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I have never played a 2v2 freezetag game before the league, If I had known that it would feel that short I would have said something earlier.

And I am not saying I can do it better. But when something is not working, maybe it should be changed? Instead of sticking to the rules just because and having a load of unhappy players maybe at least *consider* changing the rules to something that will work for both admins *and* the players. I am not saying my ideas are the *best* or that everyone has to think like I do, but in *my opinion* the rules of this league as they are right now.. Sux

There are a lot of people that got their games rescheduled and wasnt told because admins are too much a part of game schedule. It is a very nice thought that admins should be a part of every game but as it is, I do not think it will work. For those that are uncomfortable with rcon let them have the option to have an admin present and for those are already used to working with rcon manage the games themselves. And sure the schedules were up a long time in advance but I have a 1 year old son and I am running my own company.. I can't plan 2 months in advance just because I *have* to have an admin present who's schedule have to work too.

And about the fraglimit, you had a match you said.. You obviously didnt play against Harding and Layer Tongue Me and Unplayer never got into the match, Layer was playing better than I ever seen before and well.. Harding is Harding.. It was over before it began.

I would like to have a higher scorelimit to have the chance to step back, change tactics, pick up if i fall behind.

And I am not saying the admins hasnt done a good job. I am saying that I would like to see some changes in the rules that I think would make the league run smoother and the cw's more fun. If noone is happy about how it works then well, its not working as it should.

P.S. The change of fraglimit would most likelly only had made us loose even bigger against sNr so I am *NOT* blaming our loss on the low fraglimit. More time woulda just given em more frags, they played a great game Happy