RailOnly Clan Arena League #1
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R.C.A.L # 1// Round6 // pTs 2 : 0 TwT // 16.02.2014
(played maps: 7++ and q3dm11)
but q3dm11 no in map list.
We had no right to play q3dm11, it is against the rules!
Need play TwT map, not q3dm11.
-edit-
dm11 in TieMap list. TIEMAP can not be selected as the main. right?
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if you insist, it's just CW for rank. but need play TwT map for league. or spit on rules. on your rules
This is my personal experience of this cup. I kind of wanted to write after each gameweek to complain, but I couldn't conjure up enough energy (after all, it is only a game, why must one be agitated?) to do so. Here it goes.
Gameweek 1: noshow by dead clan.
Gameweek 2: went surprisingly stress-free. (although AIDS said after the game that we apparently played on a "wrong" config - won't get into semantics of why it's amusing so let's just say we immediately refused to ask for replay).
Gameweek 3: Idiot Poles show up, start losing and say "no ref only FW" (the irony of the worthlessness of the "clan rank" lost on them in translation)
Gameweek 4: Smarter Poles. Because it only took them 40 minutes to understand that one of the 4 members of their clan sitting in spec could be used as a "substitute ref".
Gameweek 5: (the mandatory 30 minute search for the referee not even being mentioned in a bad light anymore - the idiocy of excessive is murdering my desire to state things which are common sense and to fight for reason - just not bothering at this stage) - so after the match goes live Jeff says "yea the match is not live, this will just be a regular CW". And then he threw a tantrum when we objected, and went full retard after the part when namecalling started. I'd say sorry to pTs clan but they seemed pissed off at Jeff's expertise in wasting everybody's time as much as both my team and the referee did.
Gameweek 6(pending for us): Spearheaded by experience, I am expecting vibrant results.
So yea, sorry for being pissed off when every single game boils down to either in the words of ASD "OMG WE PLAYING ON RETARD CONFIG 1.21 NOT RETARD CONFIG 1.22 WHAT A TRAVESTY" or
"we didn't get a ref so despite the fact both of our clans are participating in this tournament and agreed to start on the given time and are present, let's waste 40 minutes sitting here attempting to get a ref, so we can fulfill a pedantic rule after which some data entry clerk with a pseudo-title will be able to enter our game into the excessiveminus history database for a ladder which isn't even part of this tournament". Yea.
I'd say abandon ship but I sort of assumed that position after gameweek 2, we as a team been going on autopilot ever since.
This is my personal experience of this cup. I kind of wanted to write after each gameweek to complain, but I couldn't conjure up enough energy (after all, it is only a game, why must one be agitated?) to do so. Here it goes.
Gameweek 1: noshow by dead clan.
Gameweek 2: went surprisingly stress-free. (although AIDS said after the game that we apparently played on a "wrong" config - won't get into semantics of why it's amusing so let's just say we immediately refused to ask for replay).
Gameweek 3: Idiot Poles show up, start losing and say "no ref only FW" (the irony of the worthlessness of the "clan rank" lost on them in translation)
Gameweek 4: Smarter Poles. Because it only took them 40 minutes to understand that one of the 4 members of their clan sitting in spec could be used as a "substitute ref".
Gameweek 5: (the mandatory 30 minute search for the referee not even being mentioned in a bad light anymore - the idiocy of excessive is murdering my desire to state things which are common sense and to fight for reason - just not bothering at this stage) - so after the match goes live Jeff says "yea the match is not live, this will just be a regular CW". And then he threw a tantrum when we objected, and went full retard after the part when namecalling started. I'd say sorry to pTs clan but they seemed pissed off at Jeff's expertise in wasting everybody's time as much as both my team and the referee did.
Gameweek 6(pending for us): Spearheaded by experience, I am expecting vibrant results.
So yea, sorry for being pissed off when every single game boils down to either in the words of ASD "OMG WE PLAYING ON RETARD CONFIG 1.21 NOT RETARD CONFIG 1.22 WHAT A TRAVESTY" or
"we didn't get a ref so despite the fact both of our clans are participating in this tournament and agreed to start on the given time and are present, let's waste 40 minutes sitting here attempting to get a ref, so we can fulfill a pedantic rule after which some data entry clerk with a pseudo-title will be able to enter our game into the excessiveminus history database for a ladder which isn't even part of this tournament". Yea.I'd say abandon ship but I sort of assumed that position after gameweek 2, we as a team been going on autopilot ever since.
So what's new? XddHf in next rounds everyone
Be a peasant and replay last war in accordance with league rules.
The rules where writen before the league was posted, I made a copy paste from blitz last league
and? from your face they act differently?
Be a peasant and replay last war in accordance with league rules.
Haha in that case i wouldnt play xd this is now my fav quote right next to "either u apologise or u are an idiot" xdd
Jeff I'm getting confused, did u make this event to start flamewars and trolling or was there honest intention to make it decent event? If "decent event" then I'm admiring your peace of mind, i would rage quit and delete topic by now xd
Yes, like in all events mistakes are made ( like starting this event ), good that we all are not perfect right
I'm
happy to have clans like elite'z, ffsQuad, mi3, dunno, px, r2 and ddz
in this community, friendly - neutral clans who just play their games
It is your merit, I fully agree!
About the wrong config; Leave the way it is now. Forcing the clans to replay all the games played on the wrong config will burn this tournament, I doubt people even knew they played on the wrong config, I believe nothing was played on purpose. Force everyone to replay and people will stop playing in this tournament.
Totally agree! We play first round TwTvsMI3 on bad config, at that time you Jeffer shut eyes to this...After we play TwTvsSneaky, but you not accept game, and forcing wasting our time on repeat.
Where is justice
So, last League by rayden and blitz for example, same rules worse tie-maps.No-one picked tie-map then because they where bad so no-one complained. Now, same rules good tie maps only certain people who are complaining, makes sense yea?
The rules where writen before the league was posted, I made a copy paste from blitz last league
You are wrong! No not one word that says that TIEMAP-LIST included in the Main Map-List.
Consequently may be selected only as Tie-Map. Probably Blitz must add a word here...
At any rate you know what I think about it. And you know other people's opinions who previously many times delight us in others large events here
You can either, replay the round and lead by example as the cup organiser to show the community rules are there for a reason and not to be broken. Or simply don't play and don't expect other clans to follow rules.
First of all there are no rule that you can pick TIE map on the FIRST PAGE. It even sounds stupid because it's announced as TIE map? Understand or not wery?Do you really think anyone checking all the spam on the 10 pages and looking for rules there?Replay the game.
I'd suggest to delete this rule in which you can play tie maps as normal maps but can't play them again and give Bopon a chance to replay this map only. Why? Almost no one seen this rule added to this cup because if everyone knew that on time, we would have plenty of matches played on Overkill or other tie maps. It's your mistake, Jeff, and you should handle the consequences as a clan leader and as a tournament organizer. Such situation shouldn't have happened.
looking for an excuse to replay
Probably so it is. I try not for myself, but for my clan and the full legitimacy the round-6 league!
Please Jeffer give us a chance, click here and propose a date and time.
Yea jeff sorry for criticism and harsh words during the alleged war (temper were running high on both sides since you at firs tsaid this game is not valid then attmpted toclaim it was a wo) and the above letter was there to face frustration wit h the league and certin decisions.
one:the lack o favailable referees _ instead of whining i could have pointed out that a system where you actually ask everyone in the ref team on their forum to say who can apply to be event ref, and write in public forum that anyone can apply (all you need to do is know the rules (which everyone follows - if the tournament has any rule changes then everyone knows about it cos half the community raged about them , so basically follow record mvd and have a basic grasp on rules. then people know who to contact.
two about our geame... we were pissedof cos you said we'll have a reglar cw instead (you were thinking you were softening the blow , but you were in fact making it worse)... if you cakked a timeout and said that this server has wrong config and offered to either find another server or replay on another date. We would have actually just calmly agreed... that's all. so sorry for the commetnts ets.
We kind of need to repl our game... i kind of feel like you, sa in the game week passwed, i cant be bothered to reply but loxotron keeps asking.. plus rest of your team semed interested and its better than a draw in the table.
Hi Jeff. We need your help... Can you check this topic http://www.excessiveplus.net/forums/thread/elitez-vs-dunno? During the schedule round 7 should play PX with dunno, but them think they should play with Elitez. i am confused. Can you resolve my doubts? Regards Jumper
So, last League by rayden and blitz for example, same rules worse tie-maps.
No-one
picked tie-map then because they where bad so no-one complaned. Now,
same rules good tie maps only certain people who are complaining, makes
sense yea?
The rules where writen before the league was posted, I
made a copy paste from blitz last league and editted it to what i
tought was "fair" "good" like EVERY cup / league creater does. And
ALWAYS there will be atleast 1 person who does not agree and tries to
"troll" the creater from event.
Why do you people think i started this league? To play games or to read pms'ing teens crying?
Yes, like in all events mistakes are made ( like starting this event ), good that we all are not perfect right
I'm
happy to have clans like elite'z, ffsQuad, mi3, dunno, px, r2 and ddz
in this community, friendly - neutral clans who just play their games
Flame more, but sit in your burned asses later on