Warnerman, i feel sorry!!!
when u play under a tag. u represent the whole clan.if HK soprano kicks mowly from HK server,mowly will complain on HK forum or on HKsite.
it is not C4 it is fortune.c'mon...
if some member of a clan cheats. he is kicked from a clan. otherwise the blame is on whole clan.if one member acts bad (because he wears tag,) all clans reputation is bad.
just the fact to say..no no no it is not C4 , it is fortune..is not serious.
when a guy hits best place in 1v1 tournament.u say hey he is from my clan
, if he acts bad , errr no...he is only one person and he doenst represent a clan..
lol ,c'mon. be serious.
Casa, so you are saying that if someone from marroco does dumb things its your fault for not reacting?
Sorry it doesnt quite work like that.
Guilt is a personal issue. If their clanmates jumped in and started to do the same, then its the clans fault.
Guilt is always individual. In all laws in all modern states. (you dont put family members in jail if their relative does something wrong)
obviously , there are clans also in forums. and all of them dont wear same tag.
casa,
1. i would have an personal issue with a hk member similiar to warners pipifax, i would contact u via pm or msn.
2. if it would a pb-kick for sure a cheat, than i would for sure go public, but i would not write "HK Cheats", i would write something like "HK-xyz catched for cheating, u know what to do" or something like that.
I never would fool a whole clan for just one case. Use searchfunction for topics where HK was in critic, and i also helped HK same way like now C4 (holy-case), because everybody punished whole HK instead of the persons who was speaking.
whatever, warner and fortune gave hugs eachother, i just wanted to point out my view again.
Finally i can say, warnerman's action destroyed some relationsships. And i wanna reach, that people think first before they post!
The exceptional behaviour of one member at a certain time doesn't at all determine the behaviour and seriousness of a whole clan in general, does it?
If the same person repeatedly shows rude behaviour, then it's a different story. Nevertheless, tolerating that behaviour without a warning wouldn't make the other members rude, but irresponsible. This wasn't even the case though.
Casa, do you also agree with Rena's accusation that all DRTs should be considered arrogant, just because of one member?
Doesn't make sense to me.
Anyways, nice move Fortune. I'm glad it's settled
k stop now..this thread is going offtopic a bit...
great thread...here someone got the balls and did a public apologize for a mistake he did!!!!..(if else warnerman wasn`t guilty)...RESPECT FORTUNE!...thats a sign that c4 is profecional, fair (now 100%) and can handle with little problems...no one (clan) is perfect...but c4 is on the way to be it.
and now on of my top clans in e+
nah inter, its something that needs discussing. it would probably be discussed on the previous threads, but they got locked (with reason).
so heres the chance to finish any loose ends that the abrupt end of previous topics left.
Anemic: If the same person repeatedly shows rude behaviour, then it's a different story. Nevertheless, tolerating that behaviour without a warning wouldn't make the other members rude, but irresponsible.
Good point.
Notice the difference between one member being rude, and other iresponsible.
Thats what i mean by personal guilt. One members is guilty of being rude, but others are of not reacting on that (iresponsibility).
I'm here for a really long time now, but this kind of public excuse is a rare thing and that's why I appreciate it very much. Keep at it.
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Peace.
case closed for me. rena said it all.and good post mow...i think we should start thinking about another fragfest now