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rUnThEoN?!
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u know what i rly wonder about? about ur sudden incrase in strafing right now - as if u trained half night.
yesterday u were strafing like a nub, now u do average of an normal osp player.

same goes for the demo, if u strafe, especially around 1100 ups after a nadejump, u dont even strafe proper at all.

on another note, considering ur nadejumps, u play high sens.
on next note, there are 2-3 parts in the demo where you definitly do the exact same curve move from outdoors to indoors and u dont lift of the mouse.
so ur lift off theorie doesnt count either.

anyways, its up to server admins to ban you and not up to me to do a kind of global ban (oh wait, did that already Tongue).

edit: about strategy, what u where thinking when u looked down to the ground straight to a frozen?

hurrenson: "This idiot is apparently not familiar with a rail/sniper style."

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rUnThEoN?! wrote:

u know what i rly wonder about? about ur sudden incrase in strafing right now

- you mean the e+ double beat & defrag fullbeat demos ?
Well it isnt a big difference, 350 and 320 ups. The thing is that a player something knows better, something knows worse. Personaly i like more the vq3-only strafe (halfbeat).

rUnThEoN?! wrote:

as if u trained half night.

-ololo maybe say i hacked Defrag server,or timescale .5 or smth like that ? Amuze me again for the whole day, i like it Laughing You think it is so easy to learn Strafing ? If yes - then every single player would have Defrag PRO skillz.

rUnThEoN?! wrote:

on another note, considering ur nadejumps, u play high sens.

- sens 3.37, accel 0

rUnThEoN?! wrote:

on next note, there are 2-3 parts in the demo where you definitly do the exact same curve move from outdoors to indoors and u dont lift of the mouse.
so ur lift off theorie doesnt count either.

- How do you expect me to play the game when my mouse is on the edge of mousepad ?I cant,without lift-off. Im not cyborg to do the fuckn exact lift-off's every single time. Sometimes mouse slips, sometimes not. Depends on if my hand is wet or not, and what is the mouse sides made from. (f.e: plastic/rubber/etc)

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about strategy, what u where thinking when u looked down to the ground straight to a frozen?

- well, in cases like this, i after i kill 1 enemy and nobody coming - i start to make a circle by flying around the map and surprise the enemy who thaws his TM with silent fly-in. Its effectively, because when u fly in, u already know 50/50 where the enemy can be.(ofc near his TM,thawing him), enemy doesnt have enough time/aint used 2 react at 1 single jump-sound & plus to this.. its - frags again.(like merry-go-round)
But in my personal case - its a habit. Ofc i dont put my crosshair always down when im thawing, but there is such thing.. And time-to-time watching at Team Overlay.

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How many centimeters do you need for a 360?

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I don't want to get bogged down in technicalitites, the demos is to me obvious.

And I'm 100% certain that you cheated this game. I'm not a particularily amazing player but when I'm on a roll only a few people can keep up with me, you are not one of them.

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In this game you were keeping up with me up until the point I told people you were Accurun. You stop playing the same way in the demo mistress recorded - you are not that stupid of course. In reality what you are though is a 30 frag player tops. Judging from your playing style, coupled with the demo the matter is settled for me.

It is not about envy, it is about you still cheating. People were willing do give you a second chance, no one bitched about you joining the 1v1 cup. Bummer.

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madbringer wrote:

How many centimeters do you need for a 360?

-now that im drunk, and my sister not home ( so she could think smth) i can tell u that its 7 cm.
ps: u play starcraft? ums? or 1x1,etc. PM me Winking

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nanana im better than you, you not like me, i not like you..

- i'll answer a bit later 2 u, im 2 dizzy right nah
ps: fuk i missed a peanut cuz of u ! u're such annoying..lol Big grin

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not too embarassing screens for me Winking

note: accurun is banned on BEER, unless mona says otherwise.

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I do play a bit SC 1v1's on ICCUP, but i just pop up at random now and then, don't want to set up any games. Big grin

Back on topic, only odd things i noticed are, that you seem to do sharp mouse turns characteristic for high sens players (hence my question) coupled with an incredibly steady mouse tracking, which is pretty rare, and the occasional crosshair circling around enemies, which is the trademark of people that use an autoshot.

Still, nothing excessively conclusive. Call me blind, guys, but i haven't seen anything obvious on Skull's demo. Is it that bizarre he has a good rail aim? The 'wallhack' moments seem to be prediction coupled with intricate sound recognition.

I realize i'm no expert on the matter, so maybe a more in-depth deconstruction of the demo by the more knowledgeable people would bring this one to a closure.

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madbringer wrote:


Still, nothing excessively conclusive. Call me blind, guys, but i haven't seen anything obvious on Skull's demo. Is it that bizarre he has a good rail aim? The 'wallhack' moments seem to be prediction coupled with intricate sound recognition.

2 things:
A: you are blind, u also were as fairy got caught.
B: Sound recognition on such a distance is impossible in q3. (on a few parts of the demo)

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I'm not saying he doesn't cheat (and neither did i with Fairy), i'm saying i haven't seen anything that would make me go 'whoa man, that settles it, this asshole cheats'. At most 'well, that was weird', or 'huh'.

Both you and Mirc seem extremely convinced he did cheat, so just point at the particular moments in the demo to review.