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18. July 2009 - 12:31

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You don't need to point that out, i know (and i said so a few posts back!) that i'm no cheater detecting expert. But you'll also notice me requesting more details about what exactly is the nature of Accurun's cheating, and was directed to nothing terribly conclusive.

You may know he is cheating, but it's all about proving that he does indeed cheat by providing empirical proof obvious enough for people that lack your intuition and expertise on the matter. You failed to do that, is what i'm saying, as the stuff shown/pointed out is inconclusive, ambiguous and dipped in bias sauce, at least, for me.

18. July 2009 - 12:35

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Hey mad, i just realised, we're from the ANK posse, we're an untrustable source. Abandon ship!

also i probably will succumb to watching random fw's in timescale 0.5 ( timescale btw ) and r_shownormals 1 later today.

Also in my posts, i called Mircwar anything but an idiot. Just a difference of opinion and an accusation in being two-faced depending on situation and which group of people has an opinion.

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madbringer"I'm not that bored. :p[/quote wrote:

chicken.

The fact that he doesn't want to do it, doesn't make him a chicken, just a less of a nurd than you. Hell, im broke as fuck and pretty much anything but stuck in this place till finances sort out (stuck = no money for evenings, not "sitting @ home 24/7"), and even I'm somewhat reluctant to do that. Why? Because it is a seemingly pointless thing to do due to spending your time doing something with little outcome and a lot of effort to what? win an argument on the internet about a QUAKE3 game. Im 21 man, that doesn't seem like a top priority to me like 3 years ago. yet i still come here out of habit

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nonsense repellent declamatory

18. July 2009 - 12:41

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Sheesh, he might care about it, everyone has hobbies.

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I see hax..

(if this is an attempt at self-irony, well done. If not.. uhm)

It's just Skull should provide some clear evidence, not use the "U NOOB ME NOU BETTER" argument.

18. July 2009 - 12:43

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Shady^_^ A to the K O.G Dawg Muthuhfugguh Atlanta crew HOLLA AT THEM HOMEBOIS 3:16 Philface Posse ROLLIN DAOWN DEM SPLIFFS YO code one eight Nurd Po-lice $\"\"$ $\"\"$ $\"\"$ wrote:
The fact that he doesn't want to do it, doesn't make him a chicken, just a less of a nurd than you.

I don't need a lawyer.

Plus, i think Skull knows what i said is true but i can back it up with legitimate research if he really wants it.

18. July 2009 - 13:50

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accurun: same mistake as fairy did, u arent in the position to attack anyone.

-lololo ? I remember you accused me in cheating,posted fake evidence 'i cheat' & gave me a chance to proove that i dont. We made a deal, and now its OVER? After i proove every single thing, you want me to shut up ?

Just 2 remind the main converstations..

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Skull stop giving him second chances with irrelevant stuff :roll:

chances? u rly think he has a chance about the things i ask him?

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true mad, but i dont expect someone who knows all kind of strafing technics to cheat at all (take a look at flex who simply strafes white backwards hrhr)

however accurun, we can have a non movement based deal.

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>> Double Beat <<
>> Fullbeat 320 <<

ps: after this, skull didnt answer me nothing. Whats the problem ? He doesnt want to keep his words?

about mircwar: i cant resist, the man keeps giving same questions all the time. Is that normal ?

And i dont attack, i proove.

What u lookin' at, bra ? I'm back !

18. July 2009 - 15:11

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@shady: the "chicken :P" was a joke, u failed.

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You may know he is cheating, but it's all about proving that he does indeed cheat by providing empirical proof obvious enough for people that lack your intuition and expertise on the matter. You failed to do that, is what i'm saying, as the stuff shown/pointed out is inconclusive, ambiguous and dipped in bias sauce, at least, for me.

there u go:
http://forums.excessiveplus.net/download.php?id=24101
provide me a demo of a pro exactly aiming at a frozen enemy through 2 walls.
note: accurun was crouching around and kept aiming on the enemy.
note2: this is the first demo of accurun i looked at, such a obvious sign of wh in the first demo of him that i checked for ages, together with the unsteady mouse movement of laktos.
note3: rocketspam ftw? sound? not possible. for someone who claims to aim that precise this spam cant be aimed for over the ramp either.
what he also claims? well, he says he likes to move fast, he doesnt spam randomly as seen in laktos short demo.
ps: this is the first more obvious thing i stepped over in the demo just right now, nothing to proof a wh, but it adds fine up with the other things.

@accurun: fake evidence? in what way? its just one part of evidence, the proof is the whole after having a lot of signs for something.
the deal? the deal had no result, it just gave us a clue about how good u are as a player overall in movement.
and i ask the same questions because they arent answered properly.
edit: ps: u know there are more strafing technics then half beat full beat and double beat, u can do all of them backwards/inverted.

hurrenson: "This idiot is apparently not familiar with a rail/sniper style."

18. July 2009 - 16:44

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@shady: the "chicken :P" was a joke, u failed.

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You may know he is cheating, but it's all about proving that he does indeed cheat by providing empirical proof obvious enough for people that lack your intuition and expertise on the matter. You failed to do that, is what i'm saying, as the stuff shown/pointed out is inconclusive, ambiguous and dipped in bias sauce, at least, for me.

there u go:
http://forums.excessiveplus.net/download.php?id=24101
provide me a demo of a pro exactly aiming at a frozen enemy through 2 walls.
note: accurun was crouching around and kept aiming on the enemy.
note2: this is the first demo of accurun i looked at, such a obvious sign of wh in the first demo of him that i checked for ages, together with the unsteady mouse movement of laktos.
note3: rocketspam ftw? sound? not possible. for someone who claims to aim that precise this spam cant be aimed for over the ramp either.
what he also claims? well, he says he likes to move fast, he doesnt spam randomly as seen in laktos short demo.
ps: this is the first more obvious thing i stepped over in the demo just right now, nothing to proof a wh, but it adds fine up with the other things

Good points, Skull, that's what i'm talking about.

It seems much more plausible to me, now.

18. July 2009 - 17:09

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there u go:
http://forums.excessiveplus.net/download.php?id=24101

I dont see here anything awesome lol

18. July 2009 - 17:12

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note3: rocketspam ftw? sound? not possible. for someone who claims to aim that precise this spam cant be aimed for over the ramp either.

- so what does it show? i dont see enemy standing at Mega, and how is he going to jump down. Why wouldnt i spam a little ? its good spam place, imagine enemy runs runs, and he see the rockets coming from down, but its too late to turn, and he die. Logic 4 me.

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unsteady mouse movement

- Depends on .cfg, mouse,and its settings, etc etc, many factors here.. From all these, i can only give u try my .cfg, if it'll help u

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what he also claims? well, he says he likes to move fast, he doesnt spam randomly as seen in laktos short demo.

-Hm? if its about me: when where u when i changed my gamestyle to e5 style right before Banana Cup II ?

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ps: this is the first more obvious thing i stepped over in the demo just right now, nothing to proof a wh

- What you tryin to say is: He who doesnt see enemy,doesnt hear him,doesnt know where's he, cant never hit the enemy. a.k.a LUCK DOESNT EXIST.
Hmm but if we think more deeper into this.. Then people still spaming ? even though they know all, that LUCK doesnt exist ? Your theories actually more crazy than mine , eh ?

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and i ask the same questions because they arent answered properly.

- Whaat exactly isnt answered? All is answered! Ask me again what u need and i'll just copy-paste it. Its not hard for me So you wont get away with this trick.

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ps: u know there are more strafing technics then half beat full beat and double beat, u can do all of them backwards/inverted.

- You triping..I said i have 'defrag/cpma/etc knowledge. I didnt say i am PRO defrager and i play atleast 5 yrs each mod.

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the deal? the deal had no result, it just gave us a clue about how good u are as a player overall in movement.

- Sorry? i'll copy paste this..

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Skull stop giving him second chances with irrelevant stuff :roll:

chances? u rly think he has a chance about the things i ask him?

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true mad, but i dont expect someone who knows all kind of strafing technics to cheat at all (take a look at flex who simply strafes white backwards hrhr)

What u lookin' at, bra ? I'm back !

18. July 2009 - 17:42

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note3: rocketspam ftw? sound? not possible. for someone who claims to aim that precise this spam cant be aimed for over the ramp either.

- so what does it show? i dont see enemy standing at Mega, and how is he going to jump down. Why wouldnt i spam a little ? its good spam place, imagine enemy runs runs, and he see the rockets coming from down, but its too late to turn, and he die. Logic 4 me.

lets shorten it to this point now and discuss the rest later, u never spammed in the demo at all.
condumped:
[code:1]
[18:39] Statistics for '12<>al]'
[18:39]
[18:39] Weapon : Accrcy Hits/Atts Kills Deaths Ammo
[18:39] ------------- ------------------------------------
[18:39] Gauntlet : 0.0% 0/1 0 0 0
[18:39] Machinegun : 5.0% 1/20 0 0 11
[18:39] Shotgun : 100.0% 1/1 0 0 0
[18:39] G.Launcher : 0.0% 0/54 0 0 48
[18:39] R.Launcher : 14.3% 1/7 1 0 7
[18:39] Railgun : 49.1% 28/57 26 6 27
[18:39] BFG : 28.0% 6/20 3 0 20
[18:39]
[18:39] Damage Given: 18666 Armor Taken: 5
[18:39] Damage Recvd: 4087 Health Taken: 0
[18:39] Team Damage: 0 Team Kills: 0[/code:1]
this condump is taken after he killed 30 people and the scene taken, does that look like someone who randomly spam? not at all.