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Are you for minimum 4 vs 4 players for ranked CW ?
30. March 2007 - 10:04
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Are you for minimum 4 vs 4 players for ranked CW ?
Rena, we, at least me, read ur post carefully, but the problem is u dont explain ur points, u through in just "high numbers of clans, cws" is bad, but u never explained why.
30. March 2007 - 10:21
#73
Are you for minimum 4 vs 4 players for ranked CW ?
Most of the clans are well known old clans. WK seems serious. RS seems serious. FC surprisingly seems serious enough. Just some examples. All the rest can be easily filtered out ffs
lol i just noticed.....many clan wars are counted twice cause they are more than one gametypes.
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And for a second there i thought "wow this community is very active 
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30. March 2007 - 10:42
#74
Are you for minimum 4 vs 4 players for ranked CW ?
i vote for 3vs3
i like it when we could play 5vs5 or 4vs4
imo we should take this as standard. but its right what mowl said and the main reason why i vote y.
if some1 cant play until cw is finish, it should be possible to play 3vs3 until the end of war.
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30. March 2007 - 10:44
#75
Are you for minimum 4 vs 4 players for ranked CW ?
wrote:Most of the clans are well known old clans. WK seems serious. RS seems serious. FC surprisingly seems serious enough. Just some examples. All the rest can be easily filtered out ffs
lol i just noticed.....many clan wars are counted twice cause they are more than one gametypes.
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And for a second there i thought "wow this community is very active
First of all please don't use huge font specially with red letters, I know read and thanks God I am not blind. Second of all, community make initiative about mixed wars and solution was by majority. All democratic. so, if you laugh at that, then you laugh on community. Third, how you mark which clan is not serious ? Do you have any existing rules about that or you can make caste systems as India have huge segregation in past ? Or maybe black and white clans Who will make those rules and who will be God to decide which clan is not serious. Equality is foundation of democracy. So, IMO that is out of question....
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30. March 2007 - 10:51
#76
Are you for minimum 4 vs 4 players for ranked CW ?
I can judge if a clan is serious by the amount of clan wars they have played. As i said so many times. We can judge if a clan is serious enough to enter clan rank if they have played XX clan wars before. Objective enough.
About the names i mentioned. At least i have the balls to say what everyone is thinking ;] Even you say "more quality in clans". This means you think that some don't have enough quality. You meant KO? LEM? Or RE?
About democratic, on something so serious a difference of 2 or 5 doesn't mean anything. More is needed. 70 - 75 % imo. And btw, I repeat that i don't trust the poll. I can tell you i have 10 accounts and already faked the result. 3vs3 wins in posts, accept it.
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btw, i made suggestions (the filter). I countered your fact about too many clan wars (many are counted twice). You didn't reply to any of that. You only say "God", "Democratic", "Laugh at community". I want an argument based conversation.
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Another filter: XX clan wars played. 1,2 clan wars won? If they complete XX clan wars and haven't won any of them they only have to win 1 of the next to come and then enter clan rank. Too rough? (edit: to support this, this way we raise the bottom and "bring more quality".)
30. March 2007 - 11:09
#77
Are you for minimum 4 vs 4 players for ranked CW ?
Why is that, ask your self. You are so aggressive, I can't always replay "Who throw at you stone, you throw at him bread." I am only human and you don't let me time to answer quality, you are so persistent and you are clan less long period of time. If I talk and answer on 1000 Q to everyone, what then I should do ? Anyway I wrote my intentions. Also I will be so gentleman that I will answer on any Q, bot not now. Point of this tread is that people understand why, and it is test vote as I wrote in head post... This is not mandatory voting. When will be or if will be, then clans will decide as I dimension before. I wanna here to read constructive posts like Foksie, Kix, Trance post... "Brain Storming". Any other who will make fights and persisting in flaming, spamming, big huge words and red letters, I will ignore. I am patient, but I have also my limits. So Tartaros learn how constructive approach or don't post....
Regards
30. March 2007 - 11:11
#78
Are you for minimum 4 vs 4 players for ranked CW ?
:scratch: And i thought i was being constructive. Anyway, i stopped trying to convince you a long time ago. All my ARGUMENTS (i post only with arguments) and SUGGESTIONS (2 solid ones imo) are aimed to whole community.
30. March 2007 - 11:16
#79
Are you for minimum 4 vs 4 players for ranked CW ?
wrote::scratch: And i thought i was being constructive. Anyway, i stopped trying to convince you a long time ago. All my ARGUMENTS and SUGGESTIONS are aimed to whole community.
Convincening is bad. That means make someone to think as you do. That is impossible. In my conversation my interest is to make explanation why I suggest, nothing more. If reader understand why I wrote something I am happy then, because that is only my goal. Then, it is personal freedom of people which read to decide if it is good for community and them... or not. Also suggest alter solutions to. One man + donkey is smarter then one man, no matter who is man Einstein or fool.
regards
30. March 2007 - 11:24
#80
Are you for minimum 4 vs 4 players for ranked CW ?
Most of the time when i have a conversation with someone (or more than one) i try to fully explain my position and then support it with logical arguments and/or facts. Then the rest do the same. The goal is to convince the others that you are right with those logical arguments and facts. If you have a clasp of arguments and it's hard to decide who is right, you agree to disagree. When the other one has no arguments or facts, you try to push him a bit to shake his non-based belief. If he reacts, you back off and hope the rest see the weakness.
You brought (almost) faulty facts, no arguments to back up your suggestion, no counter attack to my arguments. (edit: not even reply to my suggestions.)
I didn't flame or spam. I do agree that this post is a bit flaming so i stop here. I expanded all my ARGUMENTS and FACTS and SUGGESTIONS. If you feel you did the same then i rest my case.
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Convincing is good.
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Here are my suggestions one last time:
Quote:
1) "New clans post their clan wars but they won't be ranked. After they complete XX clan wars and show that they mean business their wars will be ranked (along with the first XX of course)"2) "XX clan wars played. 1,2 clan wars won? If they complete XX clan wars and haven't won any of them they only have to win 1 of the next to come and then enter clan rank. Too rough? (edit: to support this, this way we raise the bottom and "bring more quality".)"
3) Someone else suggested: Limit on how many times you can challenge a clan (edit: a clan that is lower than yours in clan rank). 3 Per month? More? Less? It's obvious the reason to support this.
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[code:1]Janury 2007
DATE lname rname
----------- ---------- ----------
3 FC BNG
4 DEVA SWE
5 KO RS
6 BOD RF
6 BBS PRO
7 LEMON C4
7 2SWEET DRT
7 BNG INFX
7 HYPER DEVA
7 HYPER EVOL
7 WK RF
7 AIMPLUS WASP
9 DA RS
9 AIMPLUS KO
12 KO KA
13 DS BBS
13 FC POLANDAMG
13 FTF CLASS
14 AIMPLUS PHCELITE
14 DEVA HYPER
14 BBS EVOL
14 DS DRT
14 LAZER XP
15 LAZER DA
15 2SWEET C4
16 NTG DRT
16 DRT NTG
17 KO BBS
18 2SWEET BBS
18 DA LAZER
18 BBS BOD
20 POLANDAMG FC
20 HYPER C4
20 BE CLASS
21 FC BNG
21 KA DEVA
21 DS C4
21 LEMON AIMPLUS
21 EVOL PHCELITE
21 WASP HYPER
23 SWE RS
24 KO DA
24 KO BBS
24 DPR RF
26 KO PHCELITE
26 HYPER AIMPLUS
28 ZOMBIE HK
28 LEMON WASP
28 WASP EVOL
28 DEVA BBS
29 BNG WK
29 WD WK
28 DRT KA
29 LEMON KO
31 LEMON SWE
31 FC HYPER
31 HYPER DS
31 DEVA LAZER
(58 row(
affected)
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February 2007
DATE lname rname
----------- ---------- ----------
1 DA AIMPLUS
3 HYPER DS
3 CLASS NINJA
4 DRT WASP
4 WASP LEMON
4 C4 KA
4 DRT SWE
4 2SWEET PHCELITE
4 DA ZOMBIE
4 DA ZOMBIE
4 DPR DKA
6 DEVA ZOMBIE
6 DEVA ZOMBIE
7 HYPER RS
8 XP 2SWEET
11 LEMON SWE
11 HK DEVA
11 HK DEVA
11 DEVA DA
11 AIMPLUS WK
11 AIMPLUS WK
11 2SWEET DS
11 PHCELITE C4
11 DPR LOD
12 KO EVOL
12 DA NTG
13 AIMPLUS DRT
15 LEMON RS
16 KO DS
18 NTG 2SWEET
18 C4 DEVA
18 DS EVOL
18 AIMPLUS 2SWEET
18 XP DEVA
17 LEMON HYPER
17 BNG NG
18 PHCELITE KA
19 BBS SWE
19 KO DS
19 DPR INFX
21 LAZER KA
21 KA LAZER
22 LAZER C4
23 KO NTG
23 KO NTG
23 KO NTG
23 KO DS
25 DA KA
25 WASP DA
25 RS EVOL
25 2SWEET DEVA
25 KO DRT
25 AIMPLUS C4
28 RS DEVA
(54 row(
affected)
[/code:1]
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March 2007
DATE lname rname
----------- ---------- ----------
1 ZOMBIE 2SWEET
1 2SWEET ZOMBIE
2 HYPER KO
2 CLASS DKC
4 WK BNG
4 WK BNG
4 SWE EVOL
4 AIMPLUS DS
4 PHCELITE DRT
4 LEMON NWC
4 BE BOD
4 BE BOD
4 DA NTG
4 WASPBL DEVA
5 2SWEET LEMON
5 ZOMBIE KA
5 ZOMBIE KA
7 2SWEET MR
8 BAC BOD
8 AIMPLUS SWE
9 LEMON KO
9 LAZER RS
10 LAZER NTG
11 KA HYPER
11 DRT DA
11 RE FC
11 TROPIC NG
11 TROPIC NG
12 2SWEET RS
14 CF FC
14 DPR CF
14 TROPIC RF
14 DPR KA
14 TROPIC RF
14 SUBBBS ZOMBIE
14 SUBBBS ZOMBIE
15 DPR BAC
15 DPR BAC
15 NTS SUBBBS
15 DS ZOMBIE
16 DPR FC
17 CF BAC
17 HK FTF
18 SWE DEVA
18 WK 2SWEET
19 DOA CLASS
21 BOD TROPIC
21 C4 SWE
21 RE DPR
22 2SWEET LEMON
22 RS ZOMBIE
22 RS ZOMBIE
23 CF BAC
23 FC RS
23 FC RS
23 DPR RE
23 KA KO
23 KA KO
25 CF TNT
25 WK DS
25 SUBBBS FC
25 SUBBBS FC
25 TNT TROPIC
25 TNT TROPIC
25 LEMON WASP
25 WK AIMPLUS
25 WK AIMPLUS
25 EVOL DRT
(68 row(
affected)
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