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Parts of this thread has become too personal

If people want to play wars with pure and pb off, they have the right and are willing to take that risk.

In X we are making it a priority to have them on in our wars, the EN & X server provided to us by EN (thx by the way has pure on all the time.

The people who write the rules for the leagues and tournaments do a good job, and we should stick to the rules if we want to take part and accept the leniency of them too.

It is true that most e+ players don't use legal copies to play this wonderful mod for various reasons, but it does not mean people have no honour playing the game and we all like to see and play competitive and even games.

Pure and PB may not be perfect, but it's as close as we've got to have this "even battlefield" other mods that i play excusively have pure on anyway!

some good points have been made, but i would like to see implementation. if someone wants me to do something, i'm offering my help, contact me.

p.s. typing this out on the wii took ages

Damn you, Yas, I almost finished reading all the 5 pages and wanted to write some smart stuff then I came across your post that simply made me say: 'damn, that's what I wanted to write.... expressed 10 times better'.

However, there is something I would like to add:
1) Immortal, I understand you are mad on some bro players, you have your reasons, but the simple fact that some of them never learned to respect other people doesn't mean you can go and say so harsh things about them. As a matter of fact, there are some guys who posted here that I admire a lot, including foksie'loy who didn't start insulting and always came up with evidence. Respect, foksie!

2) Please stop the crap with bro is more pro than e5, it's really frustrating for us to read such things especially because we're talking about players who do a fair job on that 1-weapon configs too. I'm starting to think that a temporary separation between the two communities is a must.

3) If we, as a community, decide to tolerate clanwars played with PB or PURE or FF or any other security setting off doesn't mean we're ages behind, ok? It just means that we regard clanwars totally different than you do. I would like to thank Secret for pointing out that you are as noob as we are when it comes to clanwar security. For a really fair clanwar, it takes more than just these 2 settings, there are TONS available and only some referees from professional leagues can tell us exactly which are tese settings.

Sorry for this long (but hopefully not useless) post and I want to say that as far as I am concerned, bro players are welcome here as long as they realize they are not even a bit better than any other member of this community OR if they are really willing to show us how advanced their community is, they should come up with solutions and PROPOSE them, not come here and just say how incredibly pro they are and how noob we are, this jsut goes to show what a childish mentality they have. HOWEVER, it is up to the e5 community to accept or reject their propositions.

As for me... I will support PB and PURE because I really enjoy clanwars played with these security features on, but I will accept to play clanwars without pure as long as I will get a good reason for doing so.

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Some really good points there Kinetic.

I'd just like to point out that "we are leet, you are not" is not the way bro community thinks about e5. Some might, but i prefer to think bro side would just like to help you out to overcome this final step into a more secure (not completely secure, mind you) gaming enviroment.

Actualy this post i think sums the bro side point of view best.

Well, I was referring just to those who come here and say that and I pointed that out in my post (by saying that people like you try to help us, while others just come and insult our community). Well, I want to thank you for trying to help us and I agree with 'PURE and PB ON are mandatory'.

But let's go back on-topic please (I hope there is still an on-topic discussion here ). I want to ask e5 people to write here why they wouldn't like to turn PURE on, because I don't see in 'I want my game to look cool' a good reason, there must be a better reason.

And, something else I would like to ask of you guys (including bro-side) is that if you could provide us with even more security settings (like server variables or something like that).

Thank you!

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im dosent play e5 couse of behavior of e5 players im vere kicked so many times from the server couse im used mg to much or caled no skill nub couse im played rail mostly on e5r

im also did played in few e5 turnaments and it realy poor experience for me, nobody care about dates, nobody respected yors time, half of player were whining couse of somthing, and u call that fun? u realy can do every thing with a game and have fun, but if u do pee on ppl playing it its defenitly not fun at all

k first e5 is a big community, sure that are poor behaviors, but we will no generalize, ok?, in all ways this is only a e5 problem plus bro sice have exactly same probles, i play usually in bro and insults @ my game style and gun use are really constant, with this i dont like re-stard a war, just expone the other sice.
@ orgaization, hmm yee maybe u have part of reson, but the most of e5 clans have internal organization, at less i think that, i just saw my own clans organization and i can say u that is completly active. Other way is @ respect dates and hours, in the pass i had some problems with that, so ye that existed, but since some time i didnt have noone problem with that, but if u let me i will say..., it it is completly normal that some take the game more seriously and others more like fun, the best is combenation of both i think, play seriously and try have fun, 4 that we play ya?

k for end this i like go a bit, if is possible, to on-topic that opinion @ pb and pure of x i thinked was clear exposed but my clan mates kine and yas , in that way i respect all other ideas:
@ secret: yep maybe put like a rule can be drastic change, anyway we must promulgate the use of them.
@ guys that just say no to pure: i just like ask them, why? because lowexplosions and rest... cmon lest go to play seriously, or maybe u cant play good without them?, u must think @ that...

:EDIT: ok i just readed the kine post and i liked add something, in my opinion without enter if the e6 config is good or not, it did a lot of damage to our comunity, it divided to all a bit more and that was the worst think that can come in our comunity, i think ens must rethink @ that, anyway i admite that all can ply in cfg that they like, but in this moment, like the e5 community is, i think we all must think in we,yes, but too in the community.

Well I have to disagree with you on this one, Killa. On plus it's the exact same thing.

Today I took a nice test and killed a good bro player (I will just say it was from Lem) 2 times in a row with mg (yes, that silly weapon). Well, what I got was a 'fuck you!' and 'noob' and I can prove that with a screenshot.

And Killa, come on, you were not exactly the king of e5 to say you had no real competition. People still have to defeat EN and lose no cws in order to say there is no competition, ok? And please remember many players complained about your attitude because they considered you so e5-like, so it's kinda useless to start calling different, you e5-born player